For large room: do floorstanders provide benefits over standmounts even with sub?

[ehabheikal]

If you get a three way standmount with a sub you get the best of both worlds. .Many choices like r3 meta which i am running with 2 svs subs and room correction and could not be happier.

 

[sigbergaudio]

A typical bookshelf speaker will be a harder load for your amplifier and not play as loud as a floorstander, even when crossed high. So while it may sound counterintuitive, larger speakers are usually an easier load for the amplifier.

Crossing high and using multiple subs to tackle the room issues below 100hz is a good approach.

Beyond that you make a good point in your first post, what's the point of floorstanders if crossed high. None really, but a larger number of drivers and a larger cabinet will provide you with higher sensitivity than a smaller bookshelf so there is still some merit.

There's a big disconnect in the industry that speakers for your situation don't really exist. The systems we build are the exception to this rule, but they're obviously out of your budget anyway. So given your choice of speakers and budget I would go with the floorstanders. Elac unfortunately is not known for playing very loud, though.

 

[Flaesh]

I listen to loud music, play it very loud

I think you'll want compact speakers with a 15" woofer and a large or medium format compression driver in a good waveguide. And add enough subwoofers.

 

[Mort]

I blew the 6" woofer of a very highly rated 3-way bookshelf even when crossed with a subwoofer, although it was crossed lower than yours. I stick with towers.

 

[Head_Unit]

I listen to loud music, play it very loud and want as little distortion as possible!

Well then as someone may have already mentioned, the floorstanders will be better. This is presuming they have more woofer cone area than a standmount...they will often go to 3-way with a dedicated midrange which can be superior to the usual 2-way in a standmount. the 2-way will inevitably have a dispersion discontinuity between woofer and tweeter (exception for tweeters with large waveguides, or horns, IF well done). If you want to play hard rock or heavy metal loud and clean, this probably requires PA-style speakers with a large horn-although I did once really crank up a pair of Monitor Audio Silver 300s and they could take it up to quite a loud volume, I never heard Motorhead sound so clean, it was amazing.

 

[Flaesh]

Right now as temporary speakers in a room of 38 sq. m I use two-way speakers.
$111 18" woofer + $88 1" tweeter in small $20 wavegude(the last one is not good, but it is temporary), audiophiliasticish 1st order crossover (coil from the trash + $1 capacitor), $66 USB sound card Topping TP23 (claimed 24W@4ohm per channel) and a little bit of equalizer APO.

one speaker, mic in MLP, about 4 m\14' from speaker.
Tomorrow I'll try to measure it at full power.

 

[Flaesh]

I'll try to measure it

Right loudspeaker 8.5 V sweep and LR plaing Warlords by Fred Dupré. Mic in MLP.

As for the question in the first post: these are 200 liter on-wall boxes, and the waveguides are somehow placed at the left and right of them. The floor is free of speakers.

 

[Curvature]

Graphs and Measurements for Revel F208

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Graphs and Measurements for Revel M105

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These graphs are your friend. Look at the extension of directivity control into the low hundreds of Hz.

Hey everybody. In my fairly large room (l-w-h 26’11” x 22’4” x 8’10” or in the metric system 8m22 x 6m82 x 2m70) I have sincere modal issues. I will try to see what I can do with using multiple subs to combat these. This however would imply crossing over the subs pretty high (80, more likely 90 -120 hz).
Do, with this high crossover point) a floorstander provide any benefit over a standmount? I was told never to put small speakers in a large room, but why would I need a floorstander with big bass woofers if I'm letting the sub handle them?

Greets and looking forward to your thoughts.
Rudy