Yes, that messes up the whole Stellia.
Even Amir don't do post EQ measurments, and you expect that common customers should go trough all that, owning a measurment rig before they should be allowed to post their impression of a headphone? Com'on, we can be interested in science and measurments and still be able to listen and know what we hear...
Particularly for this headphone which has apparent non-minimum phase cancellations so we really don't know if the EQ will have the intended effect e.g. the filter here around 3 kHz to correct a very sharp dip coinciding with a big swing in group delay.
I agree that showing post-EQ measurements would add greater validity to the process.
Some have postulated “slam” is related to the amount of driver excursion. I have no idea if this is real or if it’s just another pseudo-scientific audiophile concept.I'm interested in what the subjectivists mean by "punch and slam", but I'm not going to buy this just for that reason.
Ha, had to give you a like for the "getting kicked in nuts" addition, did make me chuckle!Mhm, mhm, punch, slam, getting kicked in the nuts, fairy dust floating all around and all that poorly defined, inconsistently used language...
But, hey, that type of stuff is consistently making Focals overhyped and overpriced, which meant when I sold my Clears, I did so with only a non-significant financial loss
Haven't been punched or slammed by a Focal, and consider the low end no more impressive than a lot of other, cheaper options out there. Measurements confirm that out of the box they're nothing to write home about, there are also reliability issues and the collaboration with Drop on the Elex is just awful in that department.
But as long as some of these goofy subjective reviewers cream their pants after being slammed by Focals, they'll keep their price.
Yes, in this instance it would be interesting, I'd like to see that.....to see if you get the full predicted correction effect of the filters.
Do you share your playlists, Amir?Sounds like you could use my sub-bass heavy headphone test playlist!
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Sounds like that just means more volume. Maybe it’s the amount of bass? However these focals are bass deficient compared to Aeon RT...Maybe it’s the lack of sub bass that gives a headphone “slam”?
Glad to have it! I will look @qobus (I left Tidal).
I hope you are not addressing this to me as my EQ is always based on measurements. I would have little idea what to do without it.
"common customers" are not online reviewers. I expect more from a technical blog than I do from a "common customer." I want to see if the EQ actually brought the measured response closer to the Harman target. Otherwise, why include the EQ settings he used?
If "The final arbiter of any correction must be your ears" wouldn't you have to do some double-blind listening to show that your EQ curve was effective? Or are you saying that your ears are the gold standard? Aren't we trying to get away from the subjectivists? Why have an Audio Science Review if we are going to follow the same standards as they do?
No need to get nasty. And, I do have a right to ask questions and express an opinion.
I think the reason why is the final adjustments after EQing to the Harmon Curve are done by ear for the ear's sensitivity and tone response.
