I wouldn't get the 800. Its not suitably different to the Clear and as others have said , if comfort and soundstage aren't a priority, look elsewhere. A decent planar, maybe closed, will provide a good counterpoint to the airy and possibly sharp Clear sound. Look at the dan clark audio cans reviewed on here. I'd get the Ether CXThanks a lot for the feedback. I guess I'm looking for something different than the clears, not really a step up. The law of diminishing returns really kicks in after you hear something like the Hifiman Sundara, Anything more expensive than that feels more like a side step, even compared to my focal clears. Anyway, If I find a good deal on a used HD800s I guess will give them a try...
Thanks for the recommendation, I will take a look at the Ether CX. As far as getting a "decent planar" I just bought the Hifiman HE6se V2 from Adorama, I will get them in about a month since I'm importing.I wouldn't get the 800. Its not suitably different to the Clear and as others have said , if comfort and soundstage aren't a priority, look elsewhere. A decent planar, maybe closed, will provide a good counterpoint to the airy and possibly sharp Clear sound. Look at the dan clark audio cans reviewed on here. I'd get the Ether CX
That would be more than satisfactory. Interested to hear your comparison of the dynamic vs planarThanks for the recommendation, I will take a look at the Ether CX. As far as getting a "decent planar" I just bought the Hifiman HE6se V2 from Adorama, I will get them in about a month since I'm importing.
If you prefer linear bass or very slight bass boot, HD800/s with EQ is currently very close to the best headphone you can get, excellent tonality, great imaging and spatial effects and very low distortion across the whole bandwidth. From my personal experience, when all EQd to Harman Target with around 1db-3db bass shelf or linear bass, HD800 with EQ provides much more enjoyment for me than my HD6XX and K371.
If you prefer Harman bass shelf in the 2018 research(+5.5-6.5db to linear bass), HD800's bass distortion is then a bit concerning(you need more than 10db boost in EQ to tune HD800 to get Harman bass), Focal clear has much lower bass distortion but it also has clipping issue in subbass, depending on the music content and your listening volume.
LOL, buying and selling headphones, story of my life. I've bought and sold the HD6XX a couple of times, it's like a love and hate relationship. I do like the "Slam" and "Punch" of the clears, it's really good for the kind of music I listen to the most (metal, prog, etc.). I also like bluegrass and classical music, so I guess the HD800s would give me a different experience with these genres.
Any specific reason you didn't like the clears? Too bright for your taste? What kind of music do you listen to the most? If you EQ them and add a little bit of bass, you might change your mind. You could try the Focal Clears MG as well, they are my favorite cans at the moment and have a different tonal balance (more bass, less treble).I just got the Focal Clear and I think I might want to sell it (no returns). I think I'll probably prefer the Sennheiser+Drop HD8xx when it comes later this year. How do you go about selling hi-end headphones? Any details would be appreciated (where to sell, pricing, photography, packaging/shipping, etc.)
Nope. My preamp headroom is more than enough and there is for sure no clipping. Most Sennheisers just don’t have the ultra low bass distortion and hence clean bass like HE6, when all EQd with around 3db boost above flat bass.( Note HD800 has bass roll off and hence more boost than HE6, the actual subbass SPL can be around 110db after EQ in subbass heavy tracks and in this case, HE6 provides “cleaner’’ bass in my subjective experience.)I think you probably hearing clipping artifacts, not bass distortion.
You just need to set -15 or -20 preamp gain, so no clipping and no distortion.
What is a Puffin?
The EQ and Room EQ seem to be limited in adjustment when compared to a regular EQ/PEQ. It seems that it will be limiting your new headphones potential. Is there another possible solution?*although I guess I could sort of half-EQ using the EQ functions of the Puffin