Finally, proof speaker cables can affect sound with sufficient difference to meet the audible threshold...

[Mnyb]

Were you listening to Money for Nothing?

or Nothing for Money As i would describe high end cables....

 

[xray]

or Nothing for Money As i would describe high end cables....

I think we are saying the same thing. I meant paying money for nothing in return

 

[Descartes]

The biggest ripoff of them all!

 

[Holmz]

100v speaker cables don't need conduits?

It is easier to suck a piece of string through a peice of conduit to pull a new line, then to suck it through staples etc…

 

[EJ3]

In the same vein as this thread from @amirm, I found some data showing that different diameters of speaker cable can translate into differences in sound that reach the threshold of audibility.

https://www.l-acoustics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/RS2015-Cable_Effects.pdf

TLDR?
1) It's great science from L-Acoustics, which is one of the "Big 3" of live touring speakers. Never heard of L-Acoustics? They powered Adele's residency in Las Vegas and are the speakers used at places like the Hollywood Bowl. It's a well-respected audio company.

2) The research was done with 70/100V commercial speakers.

3) They did mathematical simulations and compared them to real measurements with a microphone. In some cases, the predictions were overzealous in the size of the difference, but the actual measurements still confirmed the overall predictions.

4) They were looking at distances as high as 150 meters in length! That's about 220 washing machines lined up shoulder to shoulder!

So how does this apply to the home environment?

Speaker cable differences can be measured using conventional tools. There is no magic that is unmeasurable or something that can only be heard by your ears. I think this is pretty clean science from L-Acoustics.

Audiophile cable manufacturers now have a clear and easy way to convince the objectivist crowd that their speaker cable actually makes a difference. Do the measurements to show us the difference and specify what length it took to reach the audible threshold when comparing the different cables as well as the speaker and amplifier being used. In fact, if audiophile wire manufacturers published the differences when measuring the whole industrial spool between their entry level wire and their premium wire, that would actually go a big way into taking speaker wires out of the snake oil category. It's perfectly reasonable to add the disclaimer that the difference decreases as the length decreases, and everyone would understand the need to consider their own hearing thresholds, their room needs, and how much they value of "bragging rights."

"I Saw Elvis at 1320 Feet" (a book title by John Force).
Would it sound/look better (or make any other difference if he said: a 1/4 Mile, a Quarter Mile, at 440 Yards, at 402.336 Meters or about 587 washing machines, instead?

 

[EJ3]

I bought a bunch of those stand things to keep the speaker cable off the floor so I figured I might as well wrap it around and around the room to make buying those worth it.

I used wine bottle REAL corks, figuring that it would absorb the ground vibrations when the earthquakes come. Because I bought a house on Fault Line Road.
Now I have to get insurance for it.
(Yes, there is a road named such 'round the Town of Summerville, SC and NO, I did not buy a house there!)

 

[Mart68]

I used wine bottle REAL corks, figuring that it would absorb the ground vibrations when the earthquakes come. Because I bought a house on Fault Line Road.
Now I have to get insurance for it.
(Yes, there is a road named such round the Town of Summerville, SC and NO, I did not buy a house there!)

lol

There is a 'Bleak Street' near to me and I've often speculated that it must take ten grand off the house prices.

 

[xray]

I used wine bottle REAL corks

Of course, the fact that you needed to drink a dozen bottles of wine to get enough corks made the project a whole lot more enjoyable I'll bet.

 

[EJ3]

Of course, the fact that you needed to drink a dozen bottles of wine to get enough corks made the project a whole lot more enjoyable I'll bet.

I shared, as I needed help with that too!
We found that placement was a bit difficult after consuming that wine.
Everything became hilarious and impeded progress.
And everything sounded great, despite the fact that we never got the cables to lay on all the corks right. They kept getting knocked about and we could detect no change,
no matter how hard we laughed.