Fiio K17 - DAC, headphone amp, streamer

[Headphoner]

Power specs are right there on the product spec page
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Ok, is the power for SE or balanced, or are they the same output?

 

[RogerSmith]

Ok, is the power for SE or balanced, or are they the same output?

The written value is for SE, balanced is given by the multiplication by 2

 

[Headphoner]

The written value is for SE, balanced is given by the multiplication by 2

This is rarely if ever the case. Here's an example

 

[RogerSmith]

Ok, is the power for SE or balanced, or are they the same output?

Ok, if you are too lazy to go to the site: https://www.fiio.com/k17_parameters

 

[RogerSmith]

Ok, is the power for SE or balanced, or are they the same output?

This is rarely, if ever, the case for a fully parallel device

 

[johny_2000]

The written value is for SE, balanced is given by the multiplication by 2

Balanced to SE power has a factor of 4.

 

[Headphoner]

Ok, if you are too lazy to go to the site: https://www.fiio.com/k17_parameters

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You call me lazy and link the wrong one just like the other guy. I said it's hard to find, you proved my point. Maybe you should spend less time being snarky and more time reading what people are saying.

Looking for SE power, as in unbalanced, as in not 4.4mm, as in not on that chart.

 

[RogerSmith]

You call me lazy and link the wrong one just like the other guy. I said it's hard to find, you proved my point. Maybe you should spend less time being snarky and more time reading what people are saying.

Looking for SE power, as in unbalanced, as in not 4.4mm, as in not on that chart.

Are you so limited? Just go to the link I posted then and look in the table above:

 

[shrimp_dude]

You call me lazy and link the wrong one just like the other guy. I said it's hard to find, you proved my point. Maybe you should spend less time being snarky and more time reading what people are saying.

Looking for SE power, as in unbalanced, as in not 4.4mm, as in not on that chart.

I linked a part of the chart for the DX9. Are you saying that wasn't what you were asking for?

You are welcome to go to Topping's own website and look at the chart, where single ended and balanced are clearly labeled. It isn't hidden or hard to find, it's right there on the product page.

 

[Headphoner]

Are you so limited? Just go to the link I posted then and look in the table above:


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When in the face of certainty of posting the wrong screenshot, you can't even admit it. Science indeed, anyways, thanks for showing the correct one and deleting the part where you called me mentally handicapped.

 

[xevman]

Does anyone who owns this know if the PEQ applies to the digital toslink and coax outputs?

 

[rocksteady]

sigh... no i2s

That's a problem, because?... What would you connect it to? Serious question...

 

[raif71]

That's a problem, because?... What would you connect it to? Serious question...

I have several music players that output i2s such as topping m50 and smsl sd-9. it is useful to connect these i2s output to the input of DACs that support i2s. I connected my m50 to topping d70 and smsl sd-9 to gustard x16, I have a spare smsl sd-9 and looking forward to pair it with a DAC that support i2s.

 

[Ongii]

Does anyone who owns this know if the PEQ applies to the digital toslink and coax outputs?

It does not. I saw it written somewhere (but I don't have the device)

 

[Ongii]

BTW: why has this device so less resonance (only 3 pages) compared to the Topping DX5 II (>60 pages)?
Just because of the price?

 

[Chagall]

BTW: why has this device so less resonance (only 3 pages) compared to the Topping DX5 II (>60 pages)?
Just because of the price?

It's not a Topping

I don't know, but K17 really has a lot going for it.

 

[Ongii]

I bought the DX5 II, however I am considering to sell it and go for the K17...

 

[Chagall]

I bought the DX5 II, however I am considering to sell it and go for the K17...

Not sure what to tell you. Both devices - Topping and Fiio - should perform well in terms of distortion and noise. While both were rushed to market, it seems Topping has encountered more issues. Yes, Fiio is more expensive, but it's up to users to decide if it's worth it.

 

[CedarX]

Topping has encountered more issues. Yes, Fiio is more expensive, but it's up to users to decide if it's worth it.

In my experience—portable stuff, I don’t own the K17—FiiO is often too ambitious. Great HW, new products introduced at a very fast pace, but they can’t keep up on the SW side: bugs that are never addressed, products that become abandonware when a replacement is introduced. The FiiO grass may not be much greener…

 

[Chagall]

In my experience—portable stuff, I don’t own the K17—FiiO is often too ambitious. Great HW, new products introduced at a very fast pace, but they can’t keep up on the SW side: bugs that are never addressed, products that become abandonware when a replacement is introduced. The FiiO grass may not be much greener…

Yeah, a shame really—both brands genuinely disrupted the market and raised the bar for price-to-performance. It’s just frustrating to see them stumble on things like QC and long-term support.