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JSmith
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I remember people advising that what one spends on a HT system, about half should be spent on cables.
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Maybe. The only supported objectivism I was exposed to in the Ante-Web days was Stereo Review. My initial red-pilling was the 1987 issue blind-testing amplifiers (Futterman, Pioneer, Hafler, Audio Research…they couldn’t tell the difference). But when you can just google it and see how many other such studies exist, I should think it would get tougher to stay loyal to the subjectivist camp.
I only returned to the hobby in 2018 - because I had been happy with my equipment for over 20 years. I started googling and…realized the Stereo Review article was the tip of a huge iceberg.
Could easily spend a thousand dollar to fill up 6m x 6m room.I remember people advising that what one spends on a HT system, about half should be spent on cables.
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With that budget, cancel the Benchmark, look at the Yamaha AS 501
I’d pick up some second hand electronics and get as much Genelec, KEF, or Revel as you can, perhaps also second hand.
By look and cost. AS 501 does seem to be better. 10-100kHz is wow!
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Which wasn't very good advice in the first place. Better question that why not is why in the first place?
There are plenty of subjective audio sites that do not welcome disagreement or technical discourse. Ask @amirm ...
Plenty if not most. Can't disagree about the emperor's new clothes....There are plenty of subjective audio sites that do not welcome disagreement or technical discourse. Ask @amirm ...
Which advice WBT? You should look at the WBT pricing in the first place. For RCA and speaker connector, it is good connector for audiophile in the first place. After dealing with lot of connectors, WBT is easily to get and handle. Of course, there is lower price connectors. WBT is the benchmark for audiophile. Could highly snake oil in ASR.
I was referring to the percentage. If those connectors are that sort of percentage of the hardware they're just silly. Never heard of WBT particularly, got a link?
DonR
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I am too lazy to give you a link, too many companies are using WBT. Krell, Mark, Revel, Wilson audio, Kimber, Siltech.......etc. It is like Neutrik in audiophile world.
Uh huh.
What has happened concurrent with evolution of Internet is so many companies getting in the game of producing useless audio products. Back in the day there were only a handful of "high-end" audio cables. Now? There are hundreds of not thousands. Each one is using the power of Internet for marketing which is cheap and available to them. In the last decade, they have also benefitted from informercial youtube videos to promote the same.
It was rare to run into subjectivists audiophiles in 1980s. Today, they are everywhere. And it has gone way beyond people with money. Even people with limited budget are spending a ton of money on non-effective tweaks, high-end gear that doesn't perform, etc.
It is so bad that their views is considered the standard, and ours the outlier! They even call us the flat-earthers!!! We let them run so wild that their message is has overpowered logic, science and engineering. Thankfully, collectively we are putting up one hell of a fight.
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Yeah the whole thing seemed to take off in the 1980's after CD was introduced. The internet made it worse in my opinion. I remember the old usenet group rec.audio.high-end which spread it even more.
I didn't know it was still a thing, but apparently it is.
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I didn't know it was still a thing, but apparently it is.