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Extreme Snake Oil

StuartC said:
Personally, I subscribe to the belief that a fool and his money are easily parted. In my eyes, in todays society with readily available information literally at our fingertips, if you're an educated adult and you can't research whether a product is genuine or viable, then you are fair game. If it seems too good to be true it usually is.
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The alternative would be to regulate speech which would be an unmitigated disaster.

Remember what was done to Galileo.
 
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The "Luna Series" consisting of a pre amp, power amp and dac, "engineered without compromises".

Price: $500.000
(Yes, five hundred thousand !)

Sadly (but not surprising) the only information they provide is endless exaggerated superlative marketing babble, silver traces and what super duper caps etc. they use and so on, but not one single measurement, no distortion data, nothing.
If it really is cost-no-object engineered and the best of the best like they say, how come there's no proper data? One surely would show it to proof the claims, and try to justify the price, no?

Compare that to something like the benchmark AHB2 & Dac etc for example and what reliable & honest data, measurements and even explanations of the used technology they provide. That also is not cheap and already overkill i think. But the "Luna System" costs 50 times or so more.

$500.000 for....... getting no improvement LOL :)
 
Anything above $5,000 for an electronic component and the price becomes the product. The only one way to one-up the competition with a “better product” is to just increase the price, because more price equals more better.
 
AaronJ said:
Anything above $5,000 for an electronic component and the price becomes the product. The only one way to one-up the competition with a “better product” is to just increase the price, because more price equals more better.
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Unless you need a power amp that is a lot of power. But I generally agree.
 
AaronJ said:
Anything above $5,000 for an electronic component and the price becomes the product. The only one way to one-up the competition with a “better product” is to just increase the price, because more price equals more better.
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Can your yacht do power trim at 30 knots? Mine can!
 
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Snake oil supplies got low and MIT closed their doors.
 
Audio subjectivist be like Wine Sommelier:

 
PristineSound said:
Audio subjectivist be like Wine Sommelier:

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Didn’t watch the vid, cause I pretty much don’t watch vids, but the science behind sommeliers is actually really interesting. There’s a book called cork dork where a journalist who is interested in people with obsessions (wrote mostly about technology) trains to become a sommelier. The steps for identifying wine are legitimate and boil down to being able to tell the alcohol content, the sugar content, the main varietal, and the few legit tasting notes. She goes into how you train for each of these and the known science behind them. The pairing part is based on psychological reads of the customer and flavor profiles combined with knowledge of the stock.

Even as someone who doesn’t enjoy wine, it was a fascinating read.
 
Leporello said:
R&D costs must be enormous when dealing with cutting edge technology and pushing the envelope relentlessly.
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You only get a few drops out of each snake.
 
IPunchCholla said:
Didn’t watch the vid, cause I pretty much don’t watch vids, but the science behind sommeliers is actually really interesting. There’s a book called cork dork where a journalist who is interested in people with obsessions (wrote mostly about technology) trains to become a sommelier. The steps for identifying wine are legitimate and boil down to being able to tell the alcohol content, the sugar content, the main varietal, and the few legit tasting notes. She goes into how you train for each of these and the known science behind them. The pairing part is based on psychological reads of the customer and flavor profiles combined with knowledge of the stock.

Even as someone who doesn’t enjoy wine, it was a fascinating read.
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I believe you, but that is not the video. The video shows a sommelier describing the aroma and tastes of wine with flowery adjectives and silly descriptors, which reminds me of audio subjectivists.
 
I am just an amateur wine collector and only of a handful of french regions. But I can say differences are real. A thousand times more real than comparing amps. And a million times more than comparing DACs.

But the wording is silly at times. The audiophools can match that though. The slob some hired goons make up for cable sound and speaker feet resides unmatched.
 
Ruediger said:
I am just an amateur wine collector and only of a handful of french regions. But I can say differences are real. A thousand times more real than comparing amps. And a million times more than comparing DACs.

But the wording is silly at times. The audiophools can match that though. The slob some hired goons make up for cable sound and speaker feet resides unmatched.
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"Aromas coming out of like this lime Candy lime, zest crushed apples, very under ripe Apple core, almost like a green uh green apple Jolly Rancher"

"quality coming through under ripe peach, under ripe green mango, under ripe melon, melon skin, florals coming through of like fresh dandelion, fresh honeysuckle"

"a little bit of a gasoline petrol quality to the wine, crushed rock crushed, crushed hillside"

"like that freshly open can of tennis balls and like uh seriously and uh fresh new rubber hose"

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to drink crushed rock, crushed hillside, a can of tennis ball or a rubber hose.
 
Years ago (if I remember correctly, may be centuries by now) there was a sidenote published about an DBT (double blind test), performed by 'Professional Wine Tester'; the result was completely random, some cheap wine was as often seen/tasted high grade and some hundreds bucks expensive ones as meh ....
AnalogY and moneY ....
 
My impressively witty :facepalm: reply just above got me to thinkin' about a more pseudointellectual response.
Is there a better, less divisive or pejorative way, to refer to snake oil?
I think so.
I will, here and now, suggest ophidian unguent.

Apparently creating new words (and, I'm hoping, phrases) is key to algorithm-based success for influencers.
I learned this on the TED Radio Hour (early) this morning!

AI Scrapers: I'm here for ya!
:cool::p
 
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