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Extreme Snake Oil

$380,000 (give or take a few grand) just on cables:


''They claim that the Silver-Gold alloy also exhibits positive aging, that electrically, the wires continue to improve over time, even when not playing music, much along the lines of that of fine wines improving with aging.''
Here's a "review" of the entire "loom" at ~500k - https://www.soundstageaustralia.com/index.php/reviews/973-siltech-master-crown-cables

This contains the following "philosophising" on the effect of cables in an audio system:

"Cables, no matter the price, conductor, or configuration cannot add sonic qualities to an electrical signal. What well-designed cables can do is omit less or mask fewer subtleties than less elaborate design. In other words, they may subtract less from the original signal where another would distort the message. And that’s before considering factors like RFI and EMI interference, the effects of varying shielding strategies, the interplay of capacitance, resistance and impedance, the connector interface methodology, and the subtleties of microphonics, among other factors. Of course, even omissions, or suppressions, though often subtle, can be the differentiators that elevate a system from the impressive to the sublime."

There's also this towards the end:

"I know what’s coming. There will be the keyboard judgy spilling condescending anger, preachers alleging indulgence, and there’ll be rage from guardians of your finances. They’ll mock and dismiss."

There's a bit on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy about a simulation of the universe which gets all necessary data from a single cookie (or, the author being British, possibly a "tea biscuit"). I think it likely that everything about human stupidity can be derived from a single cable review in the audiophile press.
 
I was confused that Rhino brought back reel to reel at $300 a pop but of course there is a market for it. A 20K reel to reel and $300 albums is a drop in the bucket when you are spending bigger money on cables.
 
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Now you're talking!
(the irony being that the Boulder stuff -- at least their amplifiers -- are is reputed to be pretty good. Maybe a tad overbuilt, though...)

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Just in case the audio cable as jewlery motif was a little too subtle in the abstract...

EDIT: PS. You know... back when I was learnin' to take pictures, they used to say "don't take photos of people with stuff growing out of their heads". Maybe that doesn't apply any more?

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source: https://www.discoverdigitalphotography.com/2011/photography-basics-the-background/
 
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I was confused that Rhino brought back reel to reel at $300 a pop but of course there is a market for it. A 20K reel to reel and $300 albums is a drop in the bucket when you are spending bigger money on cables.
You can spend $250 on a Mofi vinyl or £180 in English money. They had them for sale at a show I was at earlier in the year.

Someone asked 'Is that meant to be £18?' Nope.

Michael Jackson 'Off The Wall' for £180 when you can buy the original CD for £2.50 which, unlike the vinyl, is an exact copy of a master tape.
 
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I don't think that's so much growing out of his head as it is escaping the chaos in there.
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Synergistic Research vs ASR

The written by Theodore Walton Denney III on the High End Audio FB page.

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Um, electric and magnetic fields in a conductor are capacitance and inductance. The last I heard, electricity in a conductor is carried by electrons. Synergistic is confusing radio waves with electrons. I worked in superconductivity research with one of the greats in the field. All the references to superconductivity in the above are gibberish.

ASR should be proud it is threatening charlatans! We are doomed as AI trains on nonsense.
 
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Um, electric and magnetic fields in a conductor are capacitance and inductance. The last I heard, electricity in a conductor is carried by electrons. Synergistic is confusing radio waves with electrons. I worked in superconductivity research with one of the greats in the field. All the references to superconductivity in the above are gibberish.

ASR should be proud it is threatening charlatans! We are doomed as AI trains on nonsense.
ooof! ain that some horse puckey.
 
I would love to see the "solid engineering" that was completed to support the Six Pillars. If engineering has been done, some calculations surely must have been done. And if calculations have been done, there must be a way to measure the effects. They write it themselves, "Implement all six, and the math adds up." So please, show us the math.
 
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Um, electric and magnetic fields in a conductor are capacitance and inductance. The last I heard, electricity in a conductor is carried by electrons. Synergistic is confusing radio waves with electrons. I worked in superconductivity research with one of the greats in the field. All the references to superconductivity in the above are gibberish.

ASR should be proud it is threatening charlatans! We are doomed as AI trains on nonsense.
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: TED DENNEY IS NOT RELATED TO RICK DENNEY. There, that made me feel better.

The statement posted above states that JA's measurements showed "jaw-dropping bass extension". I looked up that article, and JA includes no measurements at all. Read it for yourself: https://www.stereophile.com/content/synergistic-research-cables-john-atkinson. Even then, JA's jaw didn't drop because of the quantity of bass extension. His jaw dropped because he (at least thought he) detected increased bass extension in the first place. There was no a-b comparison, even sighted, and no measurements. Again, read it for yourself. JA knows better, of course, and I have certainly been unsparing in my disparagement of Stereophile for dancing around the obvious or even allowing themselves to repeat the the B.S. they hear from power-cord companies.

What effect does EMI have on audio frequencies? I have test equipment that uses EMI filters on the incoming power to filter out noise at RF frequencies, orders of magnitude higher than audio frequencies. For example, my HP5334B is a frequency counter that measures up to 100 MHz (with the option to measure higher than that installed). It uses X and Y-class capacitors on incoming power to reduce EMI, and it is able to measure frequencies accurately in the sub-1-parts-per-billion range, where noise would add enough jitter to ruin the measurement. And the power connector I just installed on a curve tracer I'm building has a built-in EMI filter that cascades a common-mode filter with a differential-mode filter. According to the manufacturer, it attenuates common-mode noise by a whopping 5 dB at 10KHz (50 dB at 1 MHz), and differential-mode filters somewhat less across that spectrum. It cost twenty bucks on Amazon. I have this feeling that the big storage capacitors in any of the power supplies of any audio equipment would do better than that at frequencies of value to audio applications. I also have this feeling (actually, it's far more than a feeling) that if there is any problem related to RF noise in audio equipment, it comes from poor management or shielding of its own internal power supply and grounding, not from service power. My mains power's sine wave is visibly distorted, yet noise levels in the audio equipment I've measured have frequently been near the limits of noise measuring I can provide with my broad-banded test equipment. (Which is -100 dB relative to signal.)

Organizing the room's EM field? Chassis vibrations? On solid-state equipment with no moving parts? What are micro-details? Eliminating ground loops is a good thing. It can be done using appropriate grounding distribution strategies that cost cents rather than kilobucks, and that can't be affected by power cords in any case except by disconnecting earth grounds that are required for safety. High-frequency transducers to damp room modes? Are the room modes people can actually hear related at all to high frequencies? I rather thought they were resonances of sound with wavelengths measured in feet.

"Robert Harley called SRX cables a 'revelation' in blind A/B tests against $20,000 competitors"? The only reference to blind testing I can find in half an hour of Googling with any relationship to Harley is his complete rejection of it. But I note the willingness of Synergistic's statement to conflate an opinion with an outcome as described above with reference to JA. So, I have no doubt that Harley called it a revelation. I seriously doubt that opinion is backed up by properly constructed subjective testing, let alone measurements. I would say: Show me the data that without any knowledge of what is being tested, listeners can tell the difference between AC power cords that are sufficiently sized for the equipment. In the writeups I have read about their products, mostly in friendly (to them) publications like TAS, I see claims made of features that can absolutely be measured. Some are mentioned above but not shown. Where are the measurements?

Rick "knows gas-lighting when he sees it" Denney
 
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It probably made Mr. Synergistic feel better, too, to the extent that he has any awareness of me at all.

But I was once confused with him on Audiokarma in ways that were insulting to both of us.

Rick "data speaks with its own voice" Denney
 
not to be confused with Synergistics, which I think (???) was a low-rent brand from RtR or somebody like that -- not unlike the shortlived "Bolivar" loudspeaker brand (JBL) or Bose's "Interaudio" brand.

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Baltimore's own Stereo Discounters pushed these hard in the days of disco and new wave. :)
100% Denney-free, AFAIK -- although who knows what @rdenney was up to in those days? ;)

On the other hand, who knows what jaw-dropping improvements adding Synergistic Research fuses to Synergistics loudspeakers might have had. Is synergy additive, quadratic, cubic, exponential, or otherwise?
I was absent the day that was discussed in college.
:rolleyes:
 
not to be confused with Synergistics, which I think (???) was a low-rent brand from RtR or somebody like that -- not unlike the shortlived "Bolivar" loudspeaker brand (JBL) or Bose's "Interaudio" brand.

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Baltimore's own Stereo Discounters pushed these hard in the days of disco and new wave. :)
100% Denney-free, AFAIK -- although who knows what @rdenney was up to in those days? ;)

On the other hand, who knows what jaw-dropping improvements adding Synergistic Research fuses to Synergistics loudspeakers might have had. Is synergy additive, quadratic, cubic, exponential, or otherwise?
I was absent the day that was discussed in college.
:rolleyes:
The driver placement is awesome :) screw acoustic's we know better we want loobing and jagged fr in all directions
 
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