Extreme Snake Oil

[totti1965]

Edit: I actually am kinda obsessed with the Infinity Reference System

There is something with these really large speakers which is hard to explain. Even @amirm must admit this!

 

[The_Fall]

As an LP collector -- I love the Hot Stampers at Better-Records. The gentleman there buys thrift store records, cleans them up. He then listens to them, and says that some of them are better than the rest. Assuming that they were earlier in the production run before the pressing plates wore out. He then arbitrarily marks them up by about 1,000%.

 

[Cbdb2]

He then listens to them, and says that some of them are better than the rest.

Some? You sure thats not 95% of them? $200 for a used LP is ludicrous.

 

[The_Fall]

Some? You sure thats not 95% of them? $200 for a used LP is ludicrous.

Yes, just 'some' of the pressings are worth that much, and only he can say which ones those are...!

"when we discover hot stampers, they become the equivalent of trade secrets -- we never reveal them to anyone."

"Our full time staff devotes its time to finding, cleaning and playing as many pressings of an album as we can get our hands on. We take only the best sounding copies – we call them "Hot Stampers" – and make them available exclusively to those who appreciate (and can afford) the ultimate in analog sound."

"How much better will a Hot Stamper sound...? That's a tough question, because it involves two things we cannot know: how good your stereo is, and how good your critical listening skills are."

 

[Jimi Floyd]

Yes, just 'some' of the pressings are worth that much, and only he can say which ones those are...!

"when we discover hot stampers, they become the equivalent of trade secrets -- we never reveal them to anyone."

"Our full time staff devotes its time to finding, cleaning and playing as many pressings of an album as we can get our hands on. We take only the best sounding copies – we call them "Hot Stampers" – and make them available exclusively to those who appreciate (and can afford) the ultimate in analog sound."

"How much better will a Hot Stamper sound...? That's a tough question, because it involves two things we cannot know: how good your stereo is, and how good your critical listening skills are."

I would then ask them where is available for sale the discarded majority of the albums. Another secret?

 

[I Got A Letter]

Following on from the video I found a link to a dealer selling the Siltech cable:

Master Crown Speaker Cable - Reference Speaker Cable - Audio Lounge London

Experience the Master Crown Speaker Cable Reference Speaker Cable at Audio Lounge London. Your finest high-end expert store for luxury hifi in Central London,

www.audiolounge.co.uk

"Jitter reduction improves the Zero Crossing Distortion, greatly influencing the audible recognition of voices and instruments."

Jitter reduction..

In a speaker cable?

 

[Gitfiddle]

Following on from the video I found a link to a dealer selling the Siltech cable:

nothing but the finest of technical specifications!

 

[xanalog]

Back cable lifters. Have any members used ice bags?

No, but I just added ferrite-beads to DIY speaker cables!
I consider them my rabbit's foots [feet? feets?]!

 

[Cbdb2]

Yes, just 'some' of the pressings are worth that much, and only he can say which ones those are...!

"when we discover hot stampers, they become the equivalent of trade secrets -- we never reveal them to anyone."

"Our full time staff devotes its time to finding, cleaning and playing as many pressings of an album as we can get our hands on. We take only the best sounding copies – we call them "Hot Stampers" – and make them available exclusively to those who appreciate (and can afford) the ultimate in analog sound."

"How much better will a Hot Stamper sound...? That's a tough question, because it involves two things we cannot know: how good your stereo is, and how good your critical listening skills are."

Off course, only he can tell which ones, and that could be 90% of them. So the buyer has to trust him to not be trying to get rich. And I have not seen any "mint" ones which he can always use as an excuse.
And you gotta know this vinyl fad will pass, they all do. Im getting in on the ground floor of the next fad, CDs. Better audio and used ones are $5. Ill be selling them all in the near future as hot stampers (CDs are also stamped out) for $100 each.

 

[mhardy6647]

nothing but the finest of technical specifications!

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So... if they list the length for a pair, does that mean that one is half that long? (or am I under-thinking this?)
Kind of an important parameter in some applications.

 

[Beave]

Following on from the video I found a link to a dealer selling the Siltech cable:

Master Crown Speaker Cable - Reference Speaker Cable - Audio Lounge London

Experience the Master Crown Speaker Cable Reference Speaker Cable at Audio Lounge London. Your finest high-end expert store for luxury hifi in Central London,

www.audiolounge.co.uk

"Jitter reduction improves the Zero Crossing Distortion, greatly influencing the audible recognition of voices and instruments."

Jitter reduction..

In a speaker cable?

Also: Zero Crossing Distortion? In a speaker cable?

 

[Gitfiddle]

View attachment 472828
So... if they list the length for a pair, does that mean that one is half that long? (or am I under-thinking this?)
Kind of an important parameter in some applications.

Wouldn't that be something? You order a pair of these for thousands and it gives you two cables at half length? I'm giggling a bit thinking about it. That would be the ultimate insult on top of the underlying scam.

 

[ckernel8]

As an LP collector -- I love the Hot Stampers at Better-Records. The gentleman there buys thrift store records, cleans them up. He then listens to them, and says that some of them are better than the rest. Assuming that they were earlier in the production run before the pressing plates wore out. He then arbitrarily marks them up by about 1,000%.

lol, what a racket.

 

[The_Fall]

Off course, only he can tell which ones, and that could be 90% of them. So the buyer has to trust him to not be trying to get rich. And I have not seen any "mint" ones which he can always use as an excuse.
And you gotta know this vinyl fad will pass, they all do. Im getting in on the ground floor of the next fad, CDs. Better audio and used ones are $5. Ill be selling them all in the near future as hot stampers (CDs are also stamped out) for $100 each.

Didn't people used to colour patterns on the tops of CDs so that the lasers could 'read' them better...?!

But on a more serious note, I still rely on physical media or files stored locally on my own server. I dont trust the streaming fad...

 

[egellings]

I remember people painting the edges of CDs with a green marking pen to enhance their already near perfect performance. Green marking pens were soon marketed just for that purpose, and at ridiculous prices. I think that one might have been marketed under the moniker "CD Stoplight".

 

[ckernel8]

Following on from the video I found a link to a dealer selling the Siltech cable:

Master Crown Speaker Cable - Reference Speaker Cable - Audio Lounge London

Experience the Master Crown Speaker Cable Reference Speaker Cable at Audio Lounge London. Your finest high-end expert store for luxury hifi in Central London,

www.audiolounge.co.uk

"Jitter reduction improves the Zero Crossing Distortion, greatly influencing the audible recognition of voices and instruments."

Jitter reduction..

In a speaker cable?

Prison.

 

[Gitfiddle]

I remember people painting the edges of CDs with a green marking pen to enhance their already near perfect performance. Green marking pens were soon marketed just for that purpose, and at ridiculous prices. I think that one might have been marketed under the moniker "CD Stoplight".

I used to buy "CD shields" for my video games and music CD's in the early 2000's so they didn't get scratched. They always had a green or orange ring around them. It was more than a decade later that I learned why.

 

[fatoldgit]

"Jitter reduction improves the Zero Crossing Distortion, greatly influencing the audible recognition of voices and instruments."

Jitter reduction..

In a speaker cable?

Well of course!!!!

Speaker cones oscillate rapidly in and out which is obviously jittery.

This can be shown to be correct because AI says, when asked what "He looks a bit jittery" means.

"can describe someone who is physically restless, nervous, or anxious, often showing signs like trembling, fidgeting, or rapid movements. It can also describe the visual artifact of a video or animation that appears choppy or shaky, usually due to a damaged file, corrupted storage, outdated drivers, or even a TV setting called motion smoothing"

We also see in medicine that being jittery is bad with it being associated with Tremors which are "involuntary, rhythmic, oscillatory movements of equal amplitude"

Note that many of the words to describe jitter (see me bolding) involve movement and can be seen as being bad for humans to experience. Who here wants to feel restless, nervous, or anxious or have the tremors while listening to music?

So speaker cables that can remove unwanted speaker cone vibrations (jitter) are worth the money and the really good (but expensive) ones remove all jitter (movement) associated with speaker cones which results in a total reduction in noise from the speakers such that the silence between... well everything...is amazing.

Highly recommended.

Peter

 

[egellings]

Jit! Jit! Jitter; the word looks like what means!

 

[mhardy6647]

Jit! Jit! Jitter; the word looks like what means!

Jit, Jit, Jitterbug!

ahem.