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Extreme Snake Oil

voon said:
I'm somehow reminded of the people believing in Orgon Accumulators, putting their store bought veggies onto a 1500$ "Orgon Accumulator Tablet" to neutralize the evil energy in barcode stickers and to introduce good energy into the veggies..... and a lot of people believe in talking burning bushes and so on.
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You aren't living unless ya talked to a burning bush or 2 ;)
 
voon said:
I'm somehow reminded of the people believing in Orgon Accumulators, putting their store bought veggies onto a 1500$ "Orgon Accumulator Tablet" to neutralize the evil energy in barcode stickers and to introduce good energy into the veggies..... and a lot of people believe in talking burning bushes and so on.
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Especially if you snort the smoke!
 
DavidShe said:
The Absolute Sound reviewer who claims to have IT expertise was stunned at the audio quality from the Synergistic network switch.
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He is obviously missing a couple to 4 months of fundamentals of digital and semi-conductor theory. Poor him... Other than that what a gong show!
 
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DavidShe said:
The Absolute Sound reviewer who claims to have IT expertise was stunned at the audio quality from the Synergistic network switch.
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Doodski said:
He is obviously missing a couple to 4 months of fundamentals of digital and semi-conductor theory. Poor him... Other than that what a gong show!
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As is often the case, they seem wholly ignorant of how to properly address problems if they were either _real_ or of _consequence_.

If it were a real issue with digital streaming of music related to Ethernet switches, they would be discussing RDMA protocols such as RoCEv2 and the like.

Or, adopt one of the flavors of "industrial Ethernet" used in say, petrochemical plants.
There, the consequence might be an explosion which takes out several square miles of Philly.
Not a slight 'smearing' of a crescendo during O Fortuna!
 
DavidShe said:
The Absolute Sound reviewer who claims to have IT expertise was stunned at the audio quality from the Synergistic network switch.

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Extreme Snake Oil

I'm somehow reminded of the people believing in Orgon Accumulators, putting their store bought veggies onto a 1500$ "Orgon Accumulator Tablet" to neutralize the evil energy in barcode stickers and to introduce good energy into the veggies..... and a lot of people believe in talking burning...
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Punter said:
Here's a superb example of a vendor straight-out lying about his product. This is the "Ideon Absolute Stream Meta" Just another streaming server based on a vanilla PC motherboard.


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In this case its the Asrock J4125-ITX which has a soldered-in Intel Celeron processor. Retail price on these is around $50-60 USD. To make it "more audiophile", the board is run off a bespoke linear power supply rather than a switchmode unit and the whole lot is mounted in the, becoming ubiquitous, aluminum chassis which has been CNC'd out of a solid block.
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Thus far, there's nothing much to differentiate this from so many other Linux based audio streamers on the market. This is where the vendor has to take things up a notch!

The reviewer writes:

"To gain further insight into the product, I Zoomed with Athens-based Ideon co-owner and CEO/software architect/product optimizer George Ligerakis, US distributor Audio Skies' Michael Vamos, and Ideon Network Engineer Emilios Ermidis. Language barriers prevented the participation of the chief designer and co-owner, electrical engineer Vassilis Tounas."

"Vamos emphasized that Ideon uses a "very high-quality CPU optimized to only play music, with extremely low latency. ... It plays live with no other processes running in parallel. As far as we know, unlike any other streamer on the market, the Ideon CPU plays directly and live from the kernel without any processing or lag. Ideon also uses totally overpowered, very quiet linear power supplies to achieve optimal sound quality."

A bit more about that "directly and live from the kernel" bit. One thing that means is that the track is buffered and played from memory, but there's more to it than that. Apparently, the native Linux recently—within the last few years—added "real-time" capability. This functionality is intended for mission-critical applications in which a computer must respond promptly—without significant latency—to an external event. It's especially helpful when the computer interacts with some real-world device, like a car or a medical device. Emilios told me that as far as he knows, Ideon is the first hi-fi manufacturer to utilize this native Linux "real-time" capability. He emphasized the Absolute's use of Linux's own core, not a home-built substitute, ensuring, he said, more reliable, efficient operation."
All complete bullshit!
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According to the review, in spite of all this amazing technology, the unit struggles to play a high quality WAV file! A member of the Audiogon forum spelled out why and it's primarily down to the weedy CPU on the Asrock board. (link to discussion)

All of this can be yours for a mere $US 24,000 !!!!!!!!!!!
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Buyers are very fortunate that historically wired Ethernet has maintained backwards compatibility! Otherwise, they'll be dumping $24k each time they upgrade their network speed.. and you KNOW they'll insist a 10G "sounds better" than 5G for 192kHz digital streaming.
 
 
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1. We're in the snake-oil topic
2. The video title says it's an autopsy of expensive cable, and in big letters it also says ridiculous

You think this needs something more to it?
 
Bleib said:
1. We're in the snake-oil topic
2. The video title says it's an autopsy of expensive cable, and in big letters it also says ridiculous

You think this needs something more to it?
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Fair enough. Though OCD Mikey, the guy in the video, is a purveyor of snake oil himself.
Happens to have his own cable business as well.
 
MattHooper said:
Fair enough. Though OCD Mikey, the guy in the video, is a purveyor of snake oil himself.
Happens to have his own cable business as well.
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Well, that's good context
 
Bleib said:
1. We're in the snake-oil topic
2. The video title says it's an autopsy of expensive cable, and in big letters it also says ridiculous

You think this needs something more to it?
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Really , yes . Read the guidance you've already been linked to. The issue is these vids are all monetized and we are driving traffic to these people . My acid test: if I have to watch the video to find out why you linked it I'm deleting it.

In this particular instance I'm minded to leave this up as an example . But your OP was nothing more than the vid panel. What cable ? What was the main finding of the investigation ? Any key time stamps ? Etc

Thanks for understanding .
 
Came across this XLR cable:

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Further exploration... By Chris Harr and Jeff Dorgay One of the most over used cliches in the world of audio writing is that a cable delivers a “component level” upgrade. However, after Chris spending a ton of time with these evaluating and comparing – and me just stepping in at the last minute...
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According to the article, the conductor is made of carbon nanotubes (whatever that means) instead of metal. Wouldn’t that cause high impedance/resistance?
 
boxerfan88 said:
Wouldn’t that cause high impedance/resistance?
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For an interconnect, that is not terribly important (within reason).

Some decades ago, just for fun, I made some interconnects from a conducting organic polymer (for all you polymer geeks, it was an N-alkylated polyaniline). They worked, but I kept thinking that this would be a great story to sell to the gullible. My damn conscience got in the way...
 
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