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Extreme Snake Oil

well in the final bill there is everything.
you cannot make a calculation that is based only on the result of the materials and components put together.. It doesn't work like that!! Otherwise at the restaurant you should get a fillet of beef for 6.50 euros plus potatoes for 0.36 euros, and a bottle of sparkling water for 0.60 euros!!
At the cost of materials and raw materials you have to add the study, the realization, the machinery, the workers, the box, the energy, the warehouse and the taxes. To this you have to add the transport, the profit of the company, the distributor and the shops that sell. and perhaps other taxes for each change of ownership of the property.
The more pieces you build and the more pieces you sell, the more all these costs proportionally decrease and therefore they will be found on the market at a more convenient price.
But when the companies are small, and the products are particular it is quite normal for the final selling price to rise disproportionately.
Having said this, which seems quite obvious to me, I absolutely agree on the fact that 60,000 and more thousand euros/dollars for a pair of cables, represent a truly exaggerated figure, especially in relation to the utility of the purpose.
 
I don't understand the problem. You earn 1250.00 towards a future purchase, get 25 meters of cable, a price match guarantee,
FREE delivery and a 30 day return policy with only a 20% (there are exceptions on special order items of 25%) restocking fee.

So for 12,500.00 or in this case 15,625.00 you can try out their cable. It's a bargain. I ordered 3 spools but If I'm not happy
I can return all of it, for just 46,8750.00.

What else could you want? :)

Regards
 
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about cables: maybe some of the experts can explain. I noticed that lately many well-known brands are marketing flat cables like these. Which are then left flat or grouped into multiple pieces of flat cable? why? why is this configuration preferred to circular section cables or cable braids?
 
Mikig said:
about cables: maybe some of the experts can explain. I noticed that lately many well-known brands are marketing flat cables like these. Which are then left flat or grouped into multiple pieces of flat cable? why? why is this configuration preferred to circular section cables or cable braids?
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I can't think of any physics reason for creating a square configuration. It's trendy looking and different is all.
 
Doodski said:
I can't think of any physics reason for creating a square configuration. It's trendy looking and different is all.
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It wouldn't hold up at all a thousand meters or so below the surface of the ocean relative to a cylindrical cable, for example.
:cool:
 
JustJones said:
Flat frequency response? :rolleyes:
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The amount of capacitive reactance and inductive reactance in a speaker cable is very small and that combined as a voltage divider with the amplifier output impedance and speaker impedance will not make anything even near what a person needs to hear a frequency response deviation. It is into the tiny tiny amounts.
 
Anyone who believes this nonsense (thank you Dookski #23) deserves to lose every dollar. I'll put them up against my BJC any day.
 
Pricing like this and high-end audio always stretch me is coming off like a dare.

Like someone in the company lost a bet “ I dare you to price it at and see if anyone will buy it” or just accompany sing to the public “ we dare you to buy this thing at this price!”

Don’t know how these people sleep at night
 
I asked this because at the time they were selling the classic Straight Wire ribbon, a flat geometry cable; I know that Mark Levinson had also produced some. Made up of many wires arranged in a parallel and flat manner. Even the ML was a flat copper foil. It looked like a belt! Then I lost sight of them for a while, and now they are back, not only for speaker cables but also for signal cables. So I am curious as to why this geometry is still being adopted.
 
Mikig said:
I asked this because at the time they were selling the classic Straight Wire ribbon, a flat geometry cable; I know that Mark Levinson had also produced some. Made up of many wires arranged in a parallel and flat manner. Even the ML was a flat copper foil. It looked like a belt! Then I lost sight of them for a while, and now they are back, not only for speaker cables but also for signal cables. So I am curious as to why this geometry is still being adopted.
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It fits under carpet very well for starters.. LoL. :D
 
MattHooper said:
Don’t know how these people sleep at night
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Probably on expensive mattresses in really nice neighborhoods.

There is always a possibility that they believe the things they say.

Although I once heard from a GM at a car dealership that sold a reliable brand, that he was talking to the owner of a dealership that sold a much less reliable brand and the GM from the reliable one was commenting that during a financial slowdown the customers weren't buying as many new cars from them because they realized that they could just keep driving their current car because it had years left in it.
The owner from the less reliable brand laughed and said "That isn't an option for our customers!"
 
ta240 said:
Probably on expensive mattresses in really nice neighborhoods.

There is always a possibility that they believe the things they say.

Although I once heard from a GM at a car dealership that sold a reliable brand, that he was talking to the owner of a dealership that sold a much less reliable brand and the GM from the reliable one was commenting that during a financial slowdown the customers weren't buying as many new cars from them because they realized that they could just keep driving their current car because it had years left in it.
The owner from the less reliable brand laughed and said "That isn't an option for our customers!"
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I actually do think most of these cable companies believe in their product.

It’s the pricing in particular that I’m getting at. They know what goes into making their cable. They know how much they are overcharging.

I just don’t know how anybody with a conscience gets into this business charging prices like that.
 
Hey man, who appointed you guys the audio police.

:)
 
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