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Extreme Snake Oil

Sorry im still learning the ways of the snake oil marketing of this great hobby so the above product is supposed to perceive your brain in a way that improves audio?

Fascinating does Amirm occasionally review this stuff and find its all placebo?
It suppose to emit scalar waves that transfer audio directly to you brain without distraction of room and speakers imperfections....

Thats just the biggest snake oil thay ive ever encountered.
Its even "better" than stickers or paste that you put on capacitors\connectors.

My brain just melted I dont know how anyone on the show can listen this guy description with straight face.

Absolutely disgusting
 
Fascinating does Amirm occasionally review this stuff and find its all placebo?

He does review quite a few snake-oil products. But only the ones that do something that can be measured and be shown to be pure make believe.

The "Extender" is just too far out there. Not quite as nuts as the stuff from Audiophile Rocks, but close. It should be obvious to just about anyone that it's absolute BS.
 
Yes, and he showed some other stuff at an AXPONA that I attended. Ironically, he grabbed an audience member for one of the demos, and it was the guy I came to the show with. He is my internist.

Quack medicine is a whole 'nother level of evil.
I've read both of your recent posts, @SIY, and I keep mis-parsing the topic as quark medicine. I am about ready to do a Pubmed search, because it seems like a really interesting unmet medical need.
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Yes, and he showed some other stuff at an AXPONA that I attended. Ironically, he grabbed an audience member for one of the demos, and it was the guy I came to the show with. He is my internist.

Quack medicine is a whole 'nother level of evil.
The self-healing powers of humans can be very astonishing. In studies and tests, healings have often occurred despite placebos.
Basically, a bracelet like these placebos can work, but since most people are a certain kind of stupid, this ring has to be expensive, otherwise it can't work. If it doesn't cost anything, it can't be any good either...

Why do I have so many parallels to the HiFi sector in my head right now...? :facepalm:
 
The self-healing powers of humans can be very astonishing. In studies and tests, healings have often occurred despite placebos.
Basically, a bracelet like these placebos can work, but since most people are a certain kind of stupid, this ring has to be expensive, otherwise it can't work. If it doesn't cost anything, it can't be any good either...

Why do I have so many parallels to the HiFi sector in my head right now...? :facepalm:
You do because both fields take advantage of the same self-delusional psychological mechanisms, but then you already knew that.
 
My brain just melted I dont know how anyone on the show can listen this guy description with straight face.
You might enjoy the recent sidebar discussion on incredulity vs. mind blowing in the long running and endlessly entertaining UFO thread. It starts about halfway down this page:

PS FWIW, my brain melted a long time ago. Startin' to carmelize now, it is.
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Sorry im still learning the ways of the snake oil marketing of this great hobby so the above product is supposed to perceive your brain in a way that improves audio?
What it's supposed to do is extract money from the ignorant without any regard . At which it succeeds.

What it's claimed to do is... something which has no particular meaning, a word salad vaguely alluding to physical things which don't exist.
 
What it's supposed to do is extract money from the ignorant without any regard . At which it succeeds.

What it's claimed to do is... something which has no particular meaning, a word salad vaguely alluding to physical things which don't exist.
There's also the "champions league" of snake oil marketing, when they're talking about physical phenomena that do indeed exist, and their products do indeed make a difference, but the effect is several orders of magnitude smaller than human perception, and sometimes even than what the best testing equipment in the world can measure.
 
There's also the "champions league" of snake oil marketing, when they're talking about physical phenomena that do indeed exist, and their products do indeed make a difference, but the effect is several orders of magnitude smaller than human perception, and sometimes even than what the best testing equipment in the world can measure.

Cables have very measurable skin effect and transmissionline impedance properties and bare fires have corona effects the insulation may have some measurable dielectric properties :) the hyperbole is to make this up to be important at audio frequencies…

It’s not , for audio the basic L C and R tells the story and shielding.
 
I'm not sure if it was posted or not.
Van Den Hul Extender

It emits "scalar waves" OMG.

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I wonder what is inside beyond led

ps. the price seems to be around ~7k USD for a pair... :rolleyes:

Jumping jeebus! I listened to a bit of his presentation, his divergence into his medical claims, to paraphrase “ if I have a test subject, I have a system where I can put my hand on a sensor and within 10 seconds I know 700 things about that human being.”

A true wackadoodle
 
Jumping jeebus! I listened to a bit of his presentation, his divergence into his medical claims, to paraphrase “ if I have a test subject, I have a system where I can put my hand on a sensor and within 10 seconds I know 700 things about that human being.”

A true wackadoodle
So now I am wondering if it's exactly 700 things he'll know within 10 seconds (or if that's rounded off, or just a Fermi estimate). I am also wondering the kinetics look like (i.e., is it a constant rate of 70 things per second, linear, or perhaps it is exponential, or some other function -- or a random rate of thing-knowledge-acquisition per unit time).

Not gonna watch the video. No siree Bob.
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Cables have very measurable skin effect and transmissionline impedance properties and bare fires have corona effects the insulation may have some measurable dielectric properties :) the hyperbole is to make this up to be important at audio frequencies…

It’s not , for audio the basic L C and R tells the story and shielding.
Their effects at audio frequencies are too miniscule to worry about.
 
Their effects at audio frequencies are too miniscule to worry about.
Exactly. Even for the RCL parameters that's mostly true. So a really fancy pair of RCA cables costing as much as a nice used car, or a really great pair of speakers for that matter, has excellent parameters and offers a signal bandwidth of 250kHz? Congrats, the average cheap one "only" goes to 100 or so. :D
 
Exactly. Even for the RCL parameters that's mostly true. So a really fancy pair of RCA cables costing as much as a nice used car, or a really great pair of speakers for that matter, has excellent parameters and offers a signal bandwidth of 250kHz? Congrats, the average cheap one "only" goes to 100 or so. :D
And human hearing? May 20kHz tops.
 
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Then how does a CD player, which is strictly limited to a tad over 20kHz, get it done? It can't generate a legitimate audio signal above that.
 
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