Eversolo DMP-A8 Balanced Streamer/DAC Review

[EJ3]

It happens with basically every stepped relay volume control.

Mine is stepped (a pair of APT/Holman Preamps linked together), maybe my Dahlquist M-905's are not sensitive enough for me to hear it.
Or, since I have a tri-amped (one NAD 2200, running in a 4 OHM stereo configuration for my pair of [custom by me subs] and one NAD 2200 in bridged mono, running in an 8 OHM configuration for each of my Dahlquist M-905's) my turn on sequence precludes me from hearing it, as (since the early 70's) I knew where I want my volume to be before I turn everything on & I preset it as I am turning the system on & rarely would need to adjust it.
But, over the years, I have never heard the sound that you are talking about (and I am sure that I have not ALWAYS done things with the controls [including the volume controls] the same way).

 

[Lobo_M]

Right now I use ATV + HDMI->coax converter + Gato dia250S, it is so convenient to use ATV +iphone/ipad but from a two years I’m looking for a better way to stream. I’ve read all pages and my first enthusiasm of A8 went down because of android update after a years. I was thinking about buying A8 because of Apple Music lossless but now I don’t know. Wiim has only airplay so it is not better solution vs. mine.

 

[restorer-john]

It happens with basically every stepped relay volume control.

Not quite. Precision timed relay operations ensure no transients and are a feature of the higher quality implementations. Benchmark HPA4 etc.

 

[Eulipian]

Vinyl doesn’t have the bass extension of digital ime,
Keith

This is probably obvious to everyone but me, but would a phono preamp still be necessary to bring the signal to line level or can the turntable be connected directly? I assume phono preamp is necessary but am hoping otherwise for a "one box to rule them all" solution.

 

[Purité Audio]

Not quite. Precision timed relay operations ensure no transients and are a feature of the higher quality implementations. Benchmark HPA4 etc.

The HPA4’s relays are much noisier, @Eulipian, you would still need a phono, not least because you need the RIAA equalisation.
Keith

 

[restorer-john]

The HPA4’s relays are much noisier

There's physical noise (a given, which will vary) and there's electrical transients in the signal. This is where Benchmark have basically taken it to a whole other level.

Relays have a finite actuation (on) time and de-actuation (off) time. One is overcoming the spring tension using and electrical/magnetic field and the other is collapsing that field and letting the spring pull the contacts away. Timing is different and depends on current drive for 'on' for each individual relay and type.

By timing the actual relays, using short throw and high quality (gold) contacts, the transients in the signal can be kept incredibly short or non-existant depending on the direction of change and the speed of operation.

Basically a relay attenuator is a simple (and very cool) concept, but there's so many poor implementations out there as to tar the entire "type" with the same brush (crap). Some IC attenuators/drivers even look at zero-cross detection of the signal to ensure the transistions occur without the potential for transients.

 

[Ismapics]

You didn't notice the ;-) ?

Ahh, sorry did not, I dont do sarcasm really well.

 

[EJ3]

Again, opinions without data are useless. The product has not been out and you have an opinion, sure.....

Too FUNNY! For this forum. Love it!

 

[EJ3]

being that there is no dedicated subwoofer output, is it possible to integrate a subwoofer while still using the HPF?

Perhaps using RCA to speakers with DSP and XLR out to the sub? I don’t expect to be able to have two separate DSP setups for the two different outputs, but being able to defeat DSP on one set would make sense. Could integrate a MINIDSP before the sub in that case.

If not than you’ve got a high pass filter that you can’t use to integrate a sub? Am I missing somethin?

Perhaps this:

 

[Oski1928]

No you would need the sub to implement its own filter.
Keith

Okay, let me try to get this across properly. What I’m asking is if there is a way to use the high pass filter on the speakers while still using a sub. I understand that the sub will have to employe its own LPF, but I’d want to be able to use the HPF in the unit for the speakers.

 

[JustJones]

Okay, let me try to get this across properly. What I’m asking is if there is a way to use the high pass filter on the speakers while still using a sub. I understand that the sub will have to employe its own LPF, but I’d want to be able to use the HPF in the unit for the speakers.

The way it looks to me is a HPF or LPF apply to each channel where you set them so I guess you could connect a subwoofer to say an RCA connection but it will have whichever filter you set for that channel. I don't really see why this thing has HPF and LPF they would only work properly if there were 4 channels not 2 or a subwoofer out. You can apply a HPF or LPF and connect a subwoofer but it's going to only get the same frequencies as your main speakers.

 

[staticV3]

What I’m asking is if there is a way to use the high pass filter on the speakers while still using a sub. I understand that the sub will have to employe its own LPF, but I’d want to be able to use the HPF in the unit for the speakers.

The DMP-A8 is a pure stereo DAC, which means it cannot output a high-passed signal for your speakers and simultaneously output a full-range/low-passed signal for your subwoofer.

For this, a device needs to have at least three distinct analog output channels.

Some examples are WiiM Ultra, miniDSP 2x4, miniDSP Flex, RME ADI-2 Pro, as well as most AVRs on the market today.

If you want to use the A8 in a 2.1 setup with full crossover (HPF+LPF), then the best way would be to buy a studio subwoofer with built-in crossover and pass-though.

The connection would be A8->Sub->Amp->Speakers.

Such a sub splits the incoming signal into bass and everything else, plays back the bass, and outputs the rest for playback on speakers.

 

[HuubFranssen]

Did anyone compare the A8 with the A6?

 

[Purité Audio]

Eversolo A-6 Master versus DMP A-8!

The new Eversolo DMP A-8 was introduced earlier this month, I have now had the opportunity to compare all three Eversolo streamers the A-6, the A-6 'Master' and the new A-8.Audio Science Review has measured the standard DMP...

www.puriteaudio.co.uk

Keith

 

[Billy Budapest]

Not cheap, but a lot of functionality (although missing a few bells and whistles), performance just short of SOTA, and seemingly great build quality—“seemingly” because I have not seen it in the flesh. Plus, what appears to be a very attractive and usable GUI. All of that is good enough for “great” from me.

 

[Sean_S]

Was anyone else a bit surprised to see there is no headphone out?

 

[Bernd]

Hallo, I have been reading hundreds of articles about me ever solo DMP products also last of months. I truly believe that the dmp6 was a master stroke of ever solo!

Then they turned out the DMP 6 master edition, which I thought was a pretty difficult proposition in the sense that it proposed and incremental increase and Performance compared to a price increase of about 175%.

The dmp8 is an all together different proposition! It is a jack of all trades: Streamer bypassing the Android notorious Digital Sound System settings, a extremely good Dac, good preamp m, best interface on the market, DSP for some.streams but via software and not hardware Implementation (and not for all signals as far.as I can see. In short much better hardware an implementation than the DMP 6ses!

As I am only using Headphones to listen to music the absence of a dedicated HP amp with balanced/unbalanced connectors is quite a drawback.

In my case will stick to Room with an RMI 2 DAC FS as an endpoint for Qubuz. I also have Spotify which I upscale via Hqplayer to the RMI.

Compared to the fluidity and internal integration of the DMP 6/8 the remains clumsy but it works will look of a second hand DMP AT in 2/3 years time.
Best audiophile regards

 

[tjf]

Perhaps this:
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Or try this:

K235 Stereo 3-Way Active Crossover

May-15-2024: Notice to our customers: We're currently running a short back-log of about 1-2 weeks. We will process orders in the order they come in. We apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you, SA Transform Your Sound System with Professional Grade Active Bi-Amping or Tri-Amping. The K235...

sublimeacoustic.com

Or this:

K231 Stereo 3-Way Active Crossover

May-15-2024: Notice to our customers: We're currently running a short back-log of about 1-2 weeks. We will process orders in the order they come in. We apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you, SA Transform Your Sound System with Professional Grade Active Bi-Amping or Tri-Amping. The K231...

sublimeacoustic.com

 

[Abrise]

Why so many features and no Chromecast ? Android owners not their market ?

 

[dsd4life]

Or try this:

K235 Stereo 3-Way Active Crossover

May-15-2024: Notice to our customers: We're currently running a short back-log of about 1-2 weeks. We will process orders in the order they come in. We apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you, SA Transform Your Sound System with Professional Grade Active Bi-Amping or Tri-Amping. The K235...

sublimeacoustic.com

Or this:

K231 Stereo 3-Way Active Crossover

May-15-2024: Notice to our customers: We're currently running a short back-log of about 1-2 weeks. We will process orders in the order they come in. We apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you, SA Transform Your Sound System with Professional Grade Active Bi-Amping or Tri-Amping. The K231...

sublimeacoustic.com

Why? They will come out with a Zidoo / Eversolo platform that does subwoofer output. In fact I am sure they are going to introduce a home theater appliance soon. The DMP-A6 was the best platform for DSD multichannel output hands down.