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Eversolo DMP-A6 Streamer Review

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    Votes: 7 1.1%

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mirror88 said:
Apple music -- Settings - Audio - Audio Quality - Wifi Streaming - Hi-Res Lossless
-- Settings - Audio - Crossfade - Off.
You should get the Lossless streaming.
BTW: Not all the tracks have the high sampling rates.
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Thanks. I changed those settings already so maybe I just have to stumble upon a hi-res track.
 
multisport4me said:
Neither are supported within Roon that I could see. You cannot control the A6 from Roon other than sending the data (audio, cover art, etc.)

I haven't gotten the A6 HDMI Audio output to pass native DSD nor any PCM greater than 96khz so far. Not sure why.
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The HDMI Audio out designed for multi-channel AV amplifier,connect to a AV AMP and Playback a DSD64 multi-channel dsf/dff/SACD or multi-channel flac/wav file at the within Library, you should get it
 
glc650 said:
Was that with Roon as a source? What AVR are you connected to?
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Yes. Roon to A6 via network (internal player mode on A6) then connected via HDMI to a Marantz AV10. I can try some FLAC files on the A6 storage as mirror88 suggested. I don't have a lot of multichannel and if I want to listen to Atmos music the AppleTV is pretty much a no brainer. I am generally quite happy with the AV10 and DSU upmixer for 2-channel stuff so the A6 really fits in nicely as both a DAC and a very nice Roon player.

One neat thing I was able to do is connect my Roon Rock via HDMI to the AV10 and also the A6 via XLR into the AV10. Then on Roon, I grouped them and that allows me to easily compare but also leaves the Roon art/info whether I use the A6 DAC or the Rock HDMI.
 
Just saw the post from Eversolo tech. That make sense- not sure of the percentage still CD quality, but probably 80-90%. Regardless at lot.

From a DMP-6A's remote App perspective, did Apple Music's selections, album art, controls look the same as the Tidal/Roon on the App? Any loss/interruption connection glitches or time-outs/re-logon for DRM issues with Apple, so far? I know, you just got it. LOL

And thanks so much for your input, it is appreciated. I am new to all this audio streaming, but I feel fortunate that devices like this are available today for reasonable prices for new users.
 
catrook said:
Just saw the post from Eversolo tech. That make sense- not sure of the percentage still CD quality, but probably 80-90%. Regardless at lot.

From a DMP-6A's remote App perspective, did Apple Music's selections, album art, controls look the same as the Tidal/Roon on the App? Any loss/interruption connection glitches or time-outs/re-logon for DRM issues with Apple, so far? I know, you just got it. LOL

And thanks so much for your input, it is appreciated. I am new to all this audio streaming, but I feel fortunate that devices like this are available today for reasonable prices for new users.
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I haven't tried Qobuz or Tidal yet running on the A6. I suspect it will look much like the A6 does when receiving an audio stream from Roon (spectacular). Sadly, the Apple Music does not look like this. Maybe there are more things I need to configure on the Apple Android app but so far, it is pretty cumbersome IMO.

Actually, the video they just posted above shows what I'm talking about. The album art in Apple Music is a small portion of screen to the right. Keep in mind, the screen is very nice but not as big as it looks on our laptops reading this thread - it is hard to see on the 6" screen. I don't know what they can do though since it is Apple and I doubt Eversolo can change the behavior of the Apple Music app.
 
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mirror88 said:
The HDMI Audio out designed for multi-channel AV amplifier,connect to a AV AMP and Playback a DSD64 multi-channel dsf/dff/SACD or multi-channel flac/wav file at the within Library, you should get it
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I understand and that is pretty cool if you can support multichannel from the A6 library. But I'm using the A6 as a Roon player so I just wish you'd allow the HDMI Audio output to output whatever Roon sends it instead of limiting it. I assume the HDMI output is a full HDMI PHY so what would limit the possible formats/resolutions from the A6 HDMI Audio output for 2-channel music? It appears to me when sending 2-channel 24/192 from Roon to the A6, the HDMI output on the A6 downres' the signal. Why?
 
multisport4me said:
I haven't tried Qobuz or Tidal yet running on the A6. I suspect it will look much like the A6 does when receiving an audio stream from Roon (spectacular). Sadly, the Apple Music does not look like this. Maybe there are more things I need to configure on the Apple Android app but so far, it is pretty cumbersome IMO.

Actually, the video they just posted above shows what I'm talking about. The album art in Apple Music is a small portion of screen to the right. Keep in mind, the screen is very nice but not as big as it looks on our laptops reading this thread - it is hard to see on the 6" screen. I don't know what they can do though since it is Apple and I doubt Eversolo can change the behavior of the Apple Music app.
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It is a standard Apple music APP. We don't have and can't do anything on it.
Just re developed the Android Audio track for supports float data and UNSRC
 
mirror88 said:
It is a standard Apple music APP. We don't have and can't do anything on it.
Just re developed the Android Audio track for supports float data and UNSRC
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That makes sense. The Android audio track output is still very cool. But I understand that the app is tightly controlled by Apple.
 
multisport4me said:
That makes sense. The Android audio track output is still very cool. But I understand that the app is tightly controlled by Apple.
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Yeah, not I am surprised, if Apple wanted it on non-Apple streamers and if is was easy like the other digital sources,we would see more Apple support on other streamers. I just hope it is stable from a technical interface with connections and DRM autheniication and that Eversolo does not get not into some tuff battle with Apple on T&C of use and it just disappears.

I have been as a side research project looking on how to use Apple TV 4K as just its running Apple Music as an lossless audio streamer without having to fhave a TV running and feed it into a TV and then back out as ARC stream.

The new Apple TV only has HDMI output and the manual says it can only go in to a TV. I found a newer HDMI audio extractor that outputs HDMI ARC but until I actually get one, I am not sure, if if will even allow access just as an Apple TV box with HDMI/extractor ARC into an amp. Until I get a my new integrated amp that has an ARC input, I have not way of testing.

Hence the extreme interested in the DMP-6A with lossless Apple Music support. I use it already for Apple Carply, on my Mac, iPhone and lossless audio on my HomePod- or so they claim. Hard to tell on a 4 in woofer/mid-range speaker with 6 tweeers. LOL
 
multisport4me said:
Actually, the video they just posted above shows what I'm talking about. The album art in Apple Music is a small portion of screen to the right. Keep in mind, the screen is very nice but not as big as it looks on our laptops reading this thread - it is hard to see on the 6" screen. I don't know what they can do though since it is Apple and I doubt Eversolo can change the behavior of the Apple Music app.
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Actually, it is not a bad presentation. I was fearing quitting at some small thumbnails and trying to see the music. I foolish bought a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 with mini led screen that does not get much use. I guess it might get a new life in landscape mode on the Eversolo.

Also, the Mac 'sorta" runs IOS applications. A developer can allow or decline. Wonder if Eversolot supports it. And, if yes, how the Eversolo App would work on a non-touch MacOS screen with just a mouse. Probably very clunky, but might get the job done. LOL
 
catrook said:
I have been as a side research project looking on how to use Apple TV 4K as just its running Apple Music as an lossless audio streamer without having to fhave a TV running and feed it into a TV and then back out as ARC stream.
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There's nothing lossless about the Apple TV 4K as it is locked to 24/48 output.
 
Well just installed the Eversolo control App on the Mac. It loaded and it let me select the DMP-6A with just a mouse click.

However, it asking fo me to scan for the DMP-6A. Unless one can do a manual setup or if the front camera on the Mac works- just a tad weird to hold for a scan. It was just for fun. I will just probably use my iPhone/Pad and get the BT remote when it is available.
glc650 said:
There's nothing lossless about the Apple TV 4K as it is locked to 24/48 output.
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Yeah, not surprised, but better than AAC files have from ripped from my CD collection. I guess you could call 24/48 CD like quality- i.e. first level lossless. But I know you mean high res lossless. Apple does like to control things to their own devices.
 
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multisport4me said:
Thanks. I changed those settings already so maybe I just have to stumble upon a hi-res track.
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Have you found any hi-res tracks and have it working? Why not try the same ones they did in the Youtube Video?

multisport4me said:
I haven't gotten the A6 HDMI Audio output to pass native DSD nor any PCM greater than 96khz so far. Not sure why.
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I would of thought the DMP-A6 would of been the one to use over the Rock due to the DSD support.

2-Channel Native DSD will work via Roon to the Eversolo. Mult-Channel DSD from Roon *may* always be outputted as PCM due to a limitation of the custom RAAT protocol Roon uses *apparently*.

To get Native Multi-Channel DSD you'll need to use the Eversolo Software as opposed to Roon. Another reason I would chose the DMP-A6 over the Rock as at least you have that option.

More info here that may help you on the DMP-A6 ( this is the Zidoo Neo Alpha though I assume the usage would be similar to the Eversolo DMP-A6 from the Audio Player perspective) shows 2-Channel DSD playback via Roon-

 
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multisport4me said:
It's been a long while since I've owned either of those pieces but my recollection is that the HT bypass mode to use as a power amp requires holding down the P.Direct button for a couple of seconds to make the RCA inputs for P.Direct be just a passthrough. That would imply you could connect the DMP-A6 using XLR to the PM11S3 XLR input and simple change to that input to use it as an integrated amp. The A6 can be set to fixed volume so that you'd only use the volume on the PM11S3 whenever using the A6 via XLR.

Now what I really cannot recall is whether or not putting the PM11S3 in HT bypass mode will make changing inputs impossible. I remember that only the one set of RCA inputs could be used for the HT bypass mode (which annoyed me since it has an XLR input) so you can just try it and keep all volume knobs turned all the way down. Heck, maybe even disconnect speakers just to see if the switching on the PM11S3 is seamless from XLR (int amp mode) to RCA (HT bypass mode).
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Just did a quick test and and the inputs on the pm11s3 are not selectable when p.direct is enabled. So needs turned off via the front panel first. Not a big deal as I have to do that anyway when using my oppo 203 as a source for stereo.

I'm pretty sure the HT Bypass is from a specific RCA input and not swappable to the XLR. So I could still use that for the A6 or just another RCA input. But I will triple check.

Good to know about the fixed volume. I think that's my problem solved....I think
 
multisport4me said:
Finally! UPS delivered the Master version via Audiophonics and then Fedex finally cleared the regular version from Futeko so I picked it up. So the Master actually exists - I'll put some pics up later. The packaging from Audiophonics was beat the hell and they forgot to send me a US plug (no bigee..I have plenty of US IEC cables) but the Eversolo packaging is so damn good there was no way anything bad would happen to the unit within. The Futkeo packaging is stellar - I haven't even opened yet and might not bother if I'm happy enough with the Master version. So the regular version will just go up for sale as I don't want to deal with customs ever again nor do I want to screw over Futeko, who was a good vendor in my experience. I doubt anybody wants my subjective comparison of the two versions so I'm just going to pick a horse and ride it. :)
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Yeah, I got your point although it's a bit of shame not to compare the SQ of both versions. You could be the first one to review them ;)
 
spizz said:
Have you found any hi-res tracks and have it working? Why not try the same ones they did in the Youtube Video?



I would of thought the DMP-A6 would of been the one to use over the Rock due to the DSD support.

2-Channel Native DSD will work via Roon to the Eversolo. Mult-Channel DSD from Roon *may* always be outputted as PCM due to a limitation of the custom RAAT protocol Roon uses *apparently*.

To get Native Multi-Channel DSD you'll need to use the Eversolo Software as opposed to Roon. Another reason I would chose the DMP-A6 over the Rock as at least you have that option.

More info here that may help you on the DMP-A6 ( this is the Zidoo Neo Alpha though I assume the usage would be similar to the Eversolo DMP-A6 from the Audio Player perspective) shows 2-Channel DSD playback via Roon-

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Well....I slept. So there's that. :) Later today I will play back some FLAC 24/192 files and see what the A6 HDMI output does with it. I can also try some DSD64 again via the A6 HDMI output. And I agree, I had hoped to use the A6 HDMI output for DSD over HDMI support.
 
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