eversolo dmp a6 gen 2 and Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition Gen 2

[doitttt]

Eversolo DMP-A6 Gen 2
has been upgraded linear power supply
at 40uv vs 0.04 mV
where the old eversolo dmp 6 had a power supply
679uv vs 0.679 mV
how much does it mean for the sound
can it be heard
when looking at wall mart adapters then up 100mv in ripple and noise

 

[Purité Audio]

No.
Keith

 

[doitttt]

thanks keith

 

[Greenman]

Well a lower noise power supply is always good news, but the A6 had near SOTA performance anyway so unlikely that this would produce anything audible. However some people have very dirty mains that can sometimes affect performance, in these cases a supply with lower noise power/ better filtering may well just help, but I suspect this is an outlier scenario.

Any news on any. other updates as well?

 

[Purité Audio]

The A6’s filtering/regulation is excellent see Amir’s measurements a linear supply won’t improve it.
Keith

 

[AudioScience Enthusiast]

For the same price as Gen 1, it's no brainer to get the Gen 2.

Adding HDMI ARC and Triggers is a nice touch, while retaining the MCH output.

The real question is, why do higher cost A8 and A10 not have MCH output?

 

[bimmerlover]

For the same price as Gen 1, it's no brainer to get the Gen 2.

Adding HDMI ARC and Triggers is a nice touch, while retaining the MCH output.

The real question is, why do higher cost A8 and A10 not have MCH output?

"For the same price as Gen 1, it's no brainer to get the Gen 2." - of course, as it's priced the same so there's no downside. That's not the question, though. The question to be answered is, is it worth selling an existing Gen 1 at a $X loss and upgrading by buying a Gen 2?

 

[Somafunk]

The question to be answered is, is it worth selling an existing Gen 1 at a $X loss and upgrading by buying a Gen 2?

I just need to find one of those people who own a Gen 1 and I’ll try my hardest to convince them it’s eminently sensible to sell their Gen 1 to me for £300 and buy themselves a Gen 2.

I will then sell my Cambridge Audio CXN V2 for £300 and we can all live happily ever after with the knowledge that we have all won in the game of hifi

I'm open to willing participants

 

[bimmerlover]

I just need to find one of those people who own a Gen 1 and I’ll try my hardest to convince them it’s eminently sensible to sell their Gen 1 to me for £300 and buy themselves a Gen 2.

I will then sell my Cambridge Audio CXN V2 for £300 and we can all live happily ever after with the knowledge that we have all won in the game of hifi

I'm open to willing participants

That is a good plan. Convince them they just HAVE to upgrade to Gen 2. I have the Cambridge Audio CXN V2 for my 2-ch system/listening lounge and the EverSolo DMP-A6 Master Edition (Gen 1) in my HT room. Both are doing a fine job for me, not least because I am more of a vinyl kind of guy when listening to music.

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[C0mbat]

The big improvement for me is the addition of the 10 peq slots per channel that matches the WiiMs. However, it doesn't seem to have a subwoofer output, nor low and high pass filter settings, so that's still a major deficiency vs the WiiM Ultra. Shame as I would be tempted to "upgrade". But then many of you would likely suggest I would hear no improvement anyway?

Edit: Response from Eversolo to and email that I sent them:

Thanks for reaching out to Eversolo.

Sorry, the DMP-A6 MASTER EDITION GEN 2 does not yet support the setting of high-pass and low-pass filters.

My Kef KC62 has manual switched based high pass filter settings on the back of the subwoofer so I could use those. But I think having it on the WiiM is far superior. Not having a chain with the Kef in the middle probably reduces noise. But having it on the WiiM makes it easier to do quick a/b comparisons between different peq settings with the sub on and off.

 

[ejr]

FWIW - I use two Genelec (1029A) powered speakers and the subwoofer that was designed for them (the 7050A). The L and R speakers connect to the subwoofer through one set of cables and the subwoofer connects back to the speakers through another pair. In other words, the subwoofer handles the routing of the frequencies for you, so it doesn't really matter whether you have a subwoofer connector on your preamp. These are old speakers (and they still sound great), but I think some of the newer models also have this capability. It just gives you a little more flexibility with your setup.

As for Eversolo, I like the DMP-A6 Gen 2 much more than I thought I would. I am seriously thinking of buying the Master Edition Gen 2. The idea would be to use the Master Edition on my home audio system and move the standard edition to my video setup. I'm tired of all the issues with Roku and Android TV music apps. The idea of just connecting another ethernet cable to the DMP-A6 and using the Eversolo's apps to stream music seems like it would be much less of a hassle (although, admittedly, an expensive workaround).

 

[otherwillsmith]

The big improvement for me is the addition of the 10 peq slots per channel that matches the WiiMs. However, it doesn't seem to have a subwoofer output, nor low and high pass filter settings, so that's still a major deficiency vs the WiiM Ultra. Shame as I would be tempted to "upgrade". But then many of you would likely suggest I would hear no improvement anyway?

Edit: Response from Eversolo to and email that I sent them:

Thanks for reaching out to Eversolo.

Sorry, the DMP-A6 MASTER EDITION GEN 2 does not yet support the setting of high-pass and low-pass filters.

My Kef KC62 has manual switched based high pass filter settings on the back of the subwoofer so I could use those. But I think having it on the WiiM is far superior. Not having a chain with the Kef in the middle probably reduces noise. But having it on the WiiM makes it easier to do quick a/b comparisons between different peq settings with the sub on and off.

I ordered an Eversolo DMP-A6 Gen 2, for an in-home trial, just to compare it to my WiiM Ultra, fully intending to send it back after a few weeks. The difference wasn’t subtle. The WiiM is an extraordinary value, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Eversolo sonically. I know some here will disagree, but if I were to guess the reasons, I’d say the balanced topology, dual DAC chips, better clocks and a superior output stage are the what set it apart. The WiiM now lives in my office system, feeding my old Benchmark DAC-1 USB, to a pair of Hypex NC250MP in Ghent enclosures, powering a pair of ADS L810s. It rocks.

 

[marekgw]

Hello, I am looking for recommendations for optimal setup for bass management for the following components:

Eversolo dmp-a6 master edition gen 2 with as pre-amplifier/streamer, with NAD c298 stereo power amplifier and KEF subwoofer KC62 as well as KEF LS50 Meta speakers.
I have asked some of GEN AI tools and here is what I received back after specifying eth following prompt:

" Recommend optimal setup for eversolo dmp-a6 master edition gen 2 with Nad c298 stereo power amplifier and KEF subwoofer KC62 along with KEF LS50 Meta speakers and provide all connections diagrams and what cables to use to have an optimal bass management also provide visual diagram for all of this"

Can you please review the following and let me know if this is the best way to have this setup so KEF KC62 handles all LFE sounds and that in turns frees KEF LS50 Meta to process highs and mid rane tone ? Or perhpas there is a better/different way.

Wanted to ask human proffesionals before blindly trusting GenAI Many thanks in advance!!!

Achieve Sonic Perfection: Your Optimal Setup for Eversolo, NAD, and KEF​

Unlock the full sonic potential of your premium audio components with this comprehensive guide to optimally setting up your Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition Gen 2, NAD C298 stereo power amplifier, KEF KC62 subwoofer, and KEF LS50 Meta speakers. This detailed walkthrough, complete with connection diagrams and specific cable recommendations, will ensure seamless integration and pristine bass management for a truly high-fidelity listening experience.

The cornerstone of this exceptional 2.1 channel system is leveraging the sophisticated bass management capabilities of the KEF KC62 subwoofer. By intelligently routing your audio signal, you can relieve your KEF LS50 Meta speakers from the demanding task of reproducing deep bass frequencies, allowing them to deliver their renowned clarity in the midrange and treble with even greater precision.

The Optimal Signal Path for Superior Bass Management​

The most effective method for integrating your components is to send the full-range stereo signal from your Eversolo streamer to the KEF KC62 first. The subwoofer will then utilize its internal high-pass filter to separate the low frequencies, sending a clean, high-passed signal to your NAD C298 power amplifier, which in turn will drive your LS50 Meta speakers.

Here is the recommended signal flow:

1. Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition to KEF KC62 Subwoofer: The Eversolo acts as the preamplifier in your system.
2. KEF KC62 Subwoofer to NAD C298 Power Amplifier: The KC62's crossover directs the appropriate frequencies to the power amplifier.
3. NAD C298 Power Amplifier to KEF LS50 Meta Speakers: The NAD C298 provides the power to drive your main speakers.

Detailed Connection Instructions and Cable Recommendations


To ensure the highest signal integrity, using the right cables for each connection is crucial.

Connection 1: Eversolo DMP-A6 to KEF KC62

• Ports: Use the Balanced XLR Outputs on the Eversolo DMP-A6 and connect to the RCA Line Inputs on the KEF KC62.
• Cables: You will need a pair of Female XLR to RCA Male cables. Opt for well-shielded cables to prevent any potential noise or interference.
• Why XLR? The balanced outputs of the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition provide a higher signal-to-noise ratio and better rejection of interference compared to RCA outputs, ensuring the purest signal reaches your subwoofer.

Connection 2: KEF KC62 to NAD C298

• Ports: Connect the RCA Line Outputs of the KEF KC62 to the Single-Ended RCA Inputs on the NAD C298.
• Cables: Use a pair of high-quality RCA to RCA interconnect cables.
• Function: This connection sends the high-passed audio signal from the KC62 to your power amplifier.

Connection 3: NAD C298 to KEF LS50 Meta

• Ports: Use the Speaker Terminals on the NAD C298 to connect to the binding posts on your KEF LS50 Meta speakers.
• Cables: Use high-quality speaker cables. A 12 or 14-gauge speaker cable is generally recommended for its balance of performance and flexibility. Ensure you connect the positive (red) and negative (black) terminals correctly on both the amplifier and the speakers.

Configuring Your System for Optimal Performance​

Once everything is physically connected, you'll need to configure the settings on your components to ensure they work in harmony.

KEF KC62 Subwoofer Settings:

• Crossover/LPF (Low-Pass Filter): The KEF LS50 Meta has a frequency response down to 47 Hz (-6dB). A good starting point for the crossover frequency on the KC62 is 70-80 Hz. This will ensure a smooth blend between the subwoofer and the speakers.
• HPF (High-Pass Filter): The HPF on the KC62's line outputs is a key feature. Set the HPF to the same frequency as the LPF (70-80 Hz). This will filter out the low bass from the signal being sent to your NAD C298 and LS50 Metas.
• Phase: Start with the phase control at 0 degrees. While playing music with consistent bass, have someone switch the phase to 180 degrees. The setting that provides the most powerful and integrated bass at your listening position is the correct one.
• Volume: Begin with the subwoofer volume at a low level. Play a familiar music track and gradually increase the volume until the bass from the KC62 seamlessly integrates with the sound from your LS50 Metas. The goal is a natural extension of the bass, not overpowering boominess.

Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition Settings:

• Volume Control: The Eversolo DMP-A6 will act as your preamplifier. Use its volume control to adjust the overall system volume.
• Equalizer: It is recommended to initially disable any equalization settings on the Eversolo to hear the natural sound of your system. You can later engage the EQ for subtle room correction if desired.

NAD C298 Power Amplifier Settings:

• Input Select: Ensure the input selector on the NAD C298 is set to the Single-Ended (RCA) inputs.
• Gain Control: If your amplifier has a gain control, it's generally best to set it to a fixed position (often labeled "THX" or a specific voltage) and control the volume from your Eversolo streamer.

By following these steps, you will create a meticulously configured system that allows each component to perform at its best. The result will be a breathtakingly clear and detailed soundstage with deep, articulate, and perfectly integrated bass, providing an immersive and truly audiophile-grade listening experience.

 

[otherwillsmith]

None of this advice is bad and would likely be a great place to start experimenting, but one note would be; this will only work if your DMP-A6 is your only analog source. The A6 doesn’t have any analog inputs. It works as a great preamp for your digital sources. I use mine that way before sending the signal off to a Schiit preamp where my turntable joins the system. If I had my A6 wired directly to the sub first, my sub wouldn’t be in the signal path of any analog sources plugged into my preamp. If you don’t have any sources other than the A6, this won’t be a problem for you.

 

[marekgw]

None of this advice is bad and would likely be a great place to start experimenting, but one note would be; this will only work if your DMP-A6 is your only analog source. The A6 doesn’t have any analog inputs. It works as a great preamp for your digital sources. I use mine that way before sending the signal off to a Schiit preamp where my turntable joins the system. If I had my A6 wired directly to the sub first, my sub wouldn’t be in the signal path of any analog sources plugged into my preamp. If you don’t have any sources other than the A6, this won’t be a problem for you.

Thanks,

I have no analog sources just DMP-A6 that I use with all the streaming apps such as Apple music, Tidal, Spotify etc..

So is this correct way of doing the bass management and freeing LS50 Meta from processing bass? Should get better mids and highs right since they will not be muffled by LFE , right?

I am hoping KEF speakers will be at the different level than before I had it rca out from NAD C298 to line in on KEF KC62 and sound was muffled (not as clean and crisp) but not sure why that was?

Need to buy some XLR female to RCA cables to make this setup work though

 

[C0mbat]

Thanks,

I have no analog sources just DMP-A6 that I use with all the streaming apps such as Apple music, Tidal, Spotify etc..

So is this correct way of doing the bass management and freeing LS50 Meta from processing bass? Should get better mids and highs right since they will not be muffled by LFE , right?

I am hoping KEF speakers will be at the different level than before I had it rca out from NAD C298 to line in on KEF KC62 and sound was muffled (not as clean and crisp) but not sure why that was?

Need to buy some XLR female to RCA cables to make this setup work though

I previously had a very similar set up to you with my LS50 Meta and KC62. Initially my set up was how you are proposing to do it. I had a WiiM Pro Plus and two Aiyima 07 Max amps. The Pro Plus doesn't have a sub out so I ran an rca cable from the coax out to the LFE Line Input on the KC62 and then used the line outputs on the KC62 to the Aiyima 07 Max amps (in my case one cable to each amp).

What difference will you notice? Well, you won't have both your speakers and sub handling the low frequencies. In reality there's probably a way of managing this situation just by managing the db level of the sub but it will make it much easier to integrate the sub so the sound should definitely improve. It will also obviously help free up power in the amps to just focus on the mids and highs and minimise the potential for distortion.

A few tips:

1) I find, no matter what speakers I use, that in my room I need the crossover higher than the recommended. It's always hovered around 85hz but I do think that also has a lot to do with your room and your speaker and sub positioning. So you will need to experiment (ideally with a mic like the Umik-1 and REW software).
2) The back of the sub has a HPF section with four little switches. This is where you adjust the cut off.
3) Unless the cable length between your DMP-A6 and your sub is really long, just stick with an RCA cable and don't bother with an XLR.
4) Most important of all - The best way to properly integrate your sub and find the right db levels for the sub and speakers is to use a mic and REW. It wasn't until I did this that I realised that I had the bass too high and the cut off too low. Now I'm much happier.
5) Unrelated to the sub specifically and more to the DMP-A6 - Use a mic, REW and the PEQ slots in the DMP-A6 to do room correction. This is by far and away the biggest improvement you can make to your sound. More than spending thousands on hardware in my opinion. It's amazing. Particularly when you have a sub and speakers.

Changes I've made since:

1) I bought the WiiM Ultra because it has a sub out and you can manage the crossover within the WiiM app that way. Plus it simplifies the cable runs and takes the KC62 out of the middle. This made a decent sound quality difference in my opinion but it wasn't huge. The biggest difference is how easy it is to tweak the crossover and db levels of both the sub and speakers. For me this is a huge advantage vs the DMP-A6.
2) I changed my speakers from the LS50 Meta to the Kef R7s to the Revel M126be and finally to the Robson Acoustics Burlington MKII. Ultimately this didn't change my need or desire for the KC62 despite the Robson Acoustics using the Purifi drivers and going down to 30hz in room.
3) I changed my amps to the Fosi Audio V3 Monos because I didn't need the pre-amp function of the Aiyimas. Then I changed recently to the Topping B200 mono amps. Neither of these changes made a significant difference in sound quality.

 

[marekgw]

Thanks for your valuable insights! Prior to trying this (like current setup) I had rca cables from NAD amplifier going into sub KC62 and that is muffling the sounds on KEF speakers so I am hoping that the new setup will improve the sound dramatically (cleaner etc... and no LFE from the speakers just from the sub)

Not sure what REW and the PEQ slots are???? Eversolo doesn't have a room correction unfortunately so not sure how I would add it ?

Regards,
M

 

[C0mbat]

Thanks for your valuable insights! Prior to trying this (like current setup) I had rca cables from NAD amplifier going into sub KC62 and that is muffling the sounds on KEF speakers so I am hoping that the new setup will improve the sound dramatically (cleaner etc... and no LFE from the speakers just from the sub)

Not sure what REW and the PEQ slots are???? Eversolo doesn't have a room correction unfortunately so not sure how I would add it ?

Regards,
M

Your gen 2 has 10 eq slots per channel. They are parametric eq slots which allows you to do manual room correction. The WiiM goes one step further and does auto room correction. You can use the eq manual just with your own instinct. But to get the most out of it you can use the free REW software to measure your speakers and sub from your listening position. You need a mic. The DSP Umik-1 is pretty cheap.

How much can it improve things? Think many times better than any other upgrade you can make. Why? Your room creates bass modes that causes peaks and dips at different frequencies. REW will give you the measurements to sort those issues out.

I'm able to quickly a/b different saved eq options with the WiiM and the difference is really noticeable. Far more than any amp or DAC change than I've made.

 

[marekgw]

FYI - quick update - I had set the HPF with dip switches to 70 Hz and LPF at 80 Hz (with a volume knob) on the KEF KC62 sub and the music cleaned up quite and bit i.e. my KEF LS 50Meta are now processing mainly mids and highs and LFE sounds stay within KEF Sub

I will play a bit still with this setup for both HPF and LPF to see what difference does it make overall but if anyone has the same setup and they are running different setting, please do let me know so I can try that as well!

Thanks so much to all the folks that have responded with their valuable opinions and feedback, much appreciated!

 

[JD1]

The big improvement for me is the addition of the 10 peq slots per channel that matches the WiiMs. However, it doesn't seem to have a subwoofer output, nor low and high pass filter settings, so that's still a major deficiency vs the WiiM Ultra. Shame as I would be tempted to "upgrade". But then many of you would likely suggest I would hear no improvement anyway?

Edit: Response from Eversolo to and email that I sent them:

Thanks for reaching out to Eversolo.

Sorry, the DMP-A6 MASTER EDITION GEN 2 does not yet support the setting of high-pass and low-pass filters.

My Kef KC62 has manual switched based high pass filter settings on the back of the subwoofer so I could use those. But I think having it on the WiiM is far superior. Not having a chain with the Kef in the middle probably reduces noise. But having it on the WiiM makes it easier to do quick a/b comparisons between different peq settings with the sub on and off.

Does not yet support , so does this mean it will support? Highpass/lowpass