Eversolo DMP A-8 compared to Eversolo DMP A-6 ‘Master’

[sandeep_s300]

A streamer that can accentuate certain parts of the sound? I would love to understand the science, please elaborate.

So , I bought my A8 today. Kept everything on the signal path same, except swapped the MacBook Pro with Roon to A8 as streamer (USB out to Topping D90 III Sabre DAC) - recorded and sent to couple of people to tell me which is the best sounding clip and why. The A8 sounded much better. I can share the files here if the size is acceptable or may be I will upload to YouTube .

I always say trust your ears and don't get carried away on science behind the equipment too much. It is like going to 3 restaurants, ordering the same butter chicken and saying why all 3 places it tastes different. The receipe is suppose to be the same, as the ingredients and method of making is identical

 

[Chester]

I always say trust your ears and don't get carried away on science behind the equipment too much.

I bet dealers love you.

 

[Purité Audio]

Stereophile just published the A-8s measurements.
Keith

 

[Jefrpol]

I posted in another thread my need for a new preamp and dac (Pre-Amp and DAC advice). One question I had is "Other than the additional digital inputs, is there any real advantage (space is not an issue) to the A8 over a Schiit Kara/A6 combo?" The Stereophile review doesn't address the relevant differences/advantages between the A6 and A8. Thoughts?

 

[Purité Audio]

In terms of sound quality no difference, in terms of features yes.
Keith

 

[Shorty]

I never do blind test as brain can still cheat. I record A B and send to friends who does serious music listening and simply ask them which is better sounding and why. And for certain component swap, one doesn't have to when the difference is night and day.

Rrrrrighttttt…… but why do you think your brain cheats? Blind tests exist to make sure your brain can not cheat. Your friends brains are cheating them as much as anyone else’s, except when they test blind.
You’re fooling yourself.

 

[sandeep_s300]

Rrrrrighttttt…… but why do you think your brain cheats? Blind tests exist to make sure your brain can not cheat. Your friends brains are cheating them as much as anyone else’s, except when they test blind.
You’re fooling yourself.

I can’t blind myself and change cables to do test . If I pre record I will still know which clip is from which setup . When I send clips to someone else , they don’t know anything about anything . They listen two tracks( A & B) and tell me which is better sounding and why, what is the difference they can pick between A & B . The better gets shortlisted and we move on to next - B vs C.

 

[Purité Audio]

They both sound exactly the same, acoustically measure your room with REW, or use REW’s ‘room simulation’ feature to determine the best positioning options or if you are really desperate to spend money buy contemporary active loudspeakers that work with your room.
Keith

 

[gwing]

I can’t blind myself and change cables to do test . If I pre record I will still know which clip is from which setup . When I send clips to someone else , they don’t know anything about anything . They listen two tracks( A & B) and tell me which is better sounding and why, what is the difference they can pick between A & B . The better gets shortlisted and we move on to next - B vs C.

If you like you can send me the A&B files and I'll roll the dice then send them back to you as 1&2 so you can do a proper blind test yourself. Unless you cheat and look at the file signatures to find out which is which first ....

 

[Purité Audio]

Just ask someone else to switch for you, I used the A-6 and A-8 into identical active speakers, the A-8 if I recollect has slightly lower output so you have to level match.
Keith

 

[sandeep_s300]

Just ask someone else to switch for you, I used the A-6 and A-8 into identical active speakers, the A-8 if I recollect has slightly lower output so you have to level match.
Keith

I do not have A6. My comparision was MacBook Pro with Roon vs A8 as streamer feeding into topping D90 iii Sabre dac going to hypex ncx500 power amp. This doesn’t even needed a blind test - difference was loud and clear.
Later it was A8 as DAC and preamp vs D90 iii , to which most tracks they sounded identical AKM , except for some female vocalist where the Sabre had slight edge on the high frequency notes . As the A8 getting burn in and settling , the difference that a few us could pick also has diminished and now the A8 seems to have slightly better detail on instrument sounds then what it was before . It could also be the fact that the a8 got the new shunyata theta NR power cord .

 

[sandeep_s300]

If you like you can send me the A&B files and I'll roll the dice then send them back to you as 1&2 so you can do a proper blind test yourself. Unless you cheat and look at the file signatures to find out which is which first ....

thanks - will send you over this weekend a few clips. You don’t have to roll dice - you can tell me if you hear the difference and which sounded better and why . Easy!

 

[Purité Audio]

Compare unsighted level matched if you really want the truth, however if you simply enjoy recounting anecdotes…
Keith

 

[sandeep_s300]

Compare unsighted level matched if you really want the truth, however if you simply enjoy recounting anecdotes…
Keith

All my recorded videos are at 75db level matched using pink noise and spl meter

 

[Purité Audio]

For accuracy use a milli volt meter and a steady tone.
Keith

 

[sandeep_s300]

I now can’t even remember what I am debating about - haha or what we are trying to discuss and achieve .
Last 3 weeks I have done so many tests - including power conditioners , power cords , vibration isolators, speaker cables , XLRs . Last few days I have settled with my setup based on the outcomes of every comparision been done , and listed the unsatisfied components in the marketplace .

 

[Purité Audio]

Nothing on that list will make the slightest difference, loudspeakers and the room always loudspeakers and the room.
Keith

 

[sandeep_s300]

That is a comment that reminded me of the guy from whom I picked paradigm persona 9H. he was running them on power cords that we get for desktops lol. His explanation is everything is 0s and 1s ( binary) .

And fyi - my room is treated with GIK acoustics products , from ceiling to floor , walls and corners and yes , all placed and measured using REW to get the best outcome . Changing any components on the signal path doesn’t change loudspeaker or room acoustics , therefore , when that components makes noticeable difference, that is to the credit of that components , because your room or loudspeaker hasn’t changed .

I am wasting time here. Out of here .

 

[Bleedingears]

That is a comment that reminded me of the guy from whom I picked paradigm persona 9H. he was running them on power cords that we get for desktops lol. His explanation is everything is 0s and 1s ( binary) .

And fyi - my room is treated with GIK acoustics products , from ceiling to floor , walls and corners and yes , all placed and measured using REW to get the best outcome . Changing any components on the signal path doesn’t change loudspeaker or room acoustics , therefore , when that components makes noticeable difference, that is to the credit of that components , because your room or loudspeaker hasn’t changed .

I am wasting time here. Out of here .

No, you're wasting your money.

 

[all24bits]

I find it interesting that the "all gear sound exactly alike" are still browsing the forum and harassing potential customers of new products. If you have something that sounds identical to everything else, why are you still in the hobby? Get what works/sounds identical to everything else on the market, and move on with life. Why are you trying to save people from themselves? There's nothing else you can fill your day with? If everything sounds identical, you should petition companies to shut down and get into a new line of work and stop scamming hi-fi customers. We only need one or two companies (like Topping) to exist since all products from every other company will sound identical in blind tests as those one or two company's products.

You can also find YouTube videos with DAC comparisons side by side, level matched, etc. and either you hear those differences captured by the recording or you don't. If you don't, great, don't buy the product and stick with whatever you got and enjoy your time/money with your family. If you do hear it, buy it or not and enjoy your time with your stereo. There's no reason to beat customers that clearly hear differences captured on recordings with your view that they're imagining it.