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Eversolo DMP-10, new release 25 october

Although I’m not a network specialist, my understanding is fiber optic per definition doesn’t transmit common mode noise, whereas Ethernet can.

Assuming that the twisted pairs in the Ethernet cable were not doing their job, how would this common mode analogue noise in the physical layer affect the digitally encoded audio data delivered to the application layer? (see OSI Model) The worst that can happen is that the packet is corrupted, is dropped by the receiver and has to be re-transmitted. The time to retransmit a packet will be measured in milliseconds, but streamers buffer several seconds of audio, so thousands of packets* can be re-transmitted with zero impact on the audio data that is sent to the DAC.

*If you're getting this much packet loss, then this would usually point to a cabling issue, rather than a noise problem, although I have experience of a pantograph on top of a train inducing noise in server systems causing them to reboot (the solution was to build a partial Faraday cage on the side of the building facing the train station where the train switched from third rail power to overhead power :)).

Here's a fun paper on CMNR in Ethernet published by Intel: https://www.ieee802.org/3/bq/public/nov14/cibula_3bq_02a_1114.pdf
 
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€4k ... it may be a very good product. But I doubt Eversolo has the *brand* to sell many at that price. They're not Linn (as an example). I suspect their sales at this price point will be a fraction of what they would be at €3k.
 
At the moment the price is just speculation, there is nothing official. And, in my opinion, since the real differences between the A8 and the A10 are reduced to a dual subwoofer output and higher quality clocks, I would be really surprised if the difference with the A8 exceeded 1000 $/Euro
 
I have promised myself to wait at least 6 months (usually a year though) before I get a device that's newly released so the child diseases or flaws will come up till then (that's the reason I don't have any of all these new DACs) .

So this won't be my Christmas present for now (although it ticks more boxes than I need,a streamer for example) .
We also still don't know what kind of displays these are,cause if they are the known useless OLEDs that are unreadable after some time it's a very hard pass.
 
May be a little pricier than originally thought. $3,680, if this is really the price.
Yes it's $3680 at Audio Advice. Order now and it ships in November
 
I'm curious about the room correction. Is it their own software or someone else's? Also, wondering if it may be a trickle down to the A8...
 

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Price $3680

Same price as Audio Advice

About what I thought. I figured between $3500 - $3995
 
It uses an Android system that will be abandoned before you know it. I'll take a Wiim and a nice DAC for a fraction of the price with much longer usable life.
 
I'm not interested in one of these, but aren't they still screwing around with firmware for the previous devices?
 
At US$3680, with it’s feature set & Zidoo build quality … there is a chance to fight with hiend streamers.

For me, it ticks all the feature boxes to replace foobar source in my 2.1 stereo hifi setup.

I shall observe with keen interest owner feedback over the next few months… :)
 
Yes it's $3680 at Audio Advice. Order now and it ships in November
Unfavorable timing. That's also when the new Bluesound Node Icon with Dirac Live comes out.
I wonder if that's just a coincidence...
 
Pretty sure the A10 will be about x4 the cost? But measure better than the Bluesound.
Good/Great question sure just seen one for
Sale, GOOGLE IT, such a deal only $.3600.00
Think I’ll order a few, why not , along with a big
Bag of nuts
 
Assuming that the twisted pairs in the Ethernet cable were not doing their job, how would this common mode analogue noise in the physical layer affect the digitally encoded audio data delivered to the application layer? (see OSI Model) The worst that can happen is that the packet is corrupted, is dropped by the receiver and has to be re-transmitted. The time to retransmit a packet will be measured in milliseconds, but streamers buffer several seconds of audio, so thousands of packets* can be re-transmitted with zero impact on the audio data that is sent to the DAC.

*If you're getting this much packet loss, then this would usually point to a cabling issue, rather than a noise problem, although I have experience of a pantograph on top of a train inducing noise in server systems causing them to reboot (the solution was to build a partial Faraday cage on the side of the building facing the train station where the train switched from third rail power to overhead power :)).

Here's a fun paper on CMNR in Ethernet published by Intel: https://www.ieee802.org/3/bq/public/nov14/cibula_3bq_02a_1114.pdf
Indeed it isn’t about common mode noise affecting the data stream, but about leaking into the DAC where the digits are converted to analogue is my understanding. Again, not an expert on this topic myself, but this is what I’ve read as main argument why fiber optic is considered as beneficial over Ethernet in a hifi context by some.
 
But measure better than the Bluesound.
Even if the Node Icon is measured a little worse (who knows...), Dirac Live will make the audible difference.
 
Even if the Node Icon is measured a little worse (who knows...), Dirac Live will make the audible difference.
I think this is going to go down like a lead balloon vs the Node Icon and new Arcam ST25.
 
Even if the Node Icon is measured a little worse (who knows...), Dirac Live will make the audible difference.
Until Eversolo also partners up with Dirac to offer DLBC.

It would be my dream come true, but right now maybe it's just a pipe dream.
 
The Node and the Node Icon not only offer Dirac Live but also
- MQA Labs QRONO d2a Technology
- THX AAA™ Headphone Amplifier Technology

These technologies will certainly be introduced by other manufacturers sooner or later.
The Marantz LINK 10n will probably be the next to receive Dirac Live.
 
Slightly sexier remote this time around.

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