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Eversolo AMP F2 Amplifier Review

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    Votes: 73 27.9%
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    Votes: 166 63.4%
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@amirm: perhaps it is time to take a look at their US$ 2,480 „fat boy“ -presumed SINAD is 82 dB - (according to LP-Magazin.de just 68 dB!!!) but it has a huge amount of power!
Translated via google from this German link:

Power amplifier Eversolo AMP-F10​

Eversolo:
So it's happened. China has arrived in the high-end audio segment and is giving the established competition a run for their money. With the power amplifier under discussion here, I have, for the first time, a device on my table that ticks all the boxes for audiophiles and is available at an unrivaled price. The "About Us" page on the company's website reveals that Eversolo "is led by a team with extensive hi-fi industry experience." Interestingly, not a single one of the nine men pictured there is Chinese. The company is nevertheless based in Shenzhen, one of the high-tech centers of the Middle Kingdom. No one in our cultural circles had ever heard of Eversolo until last year or the year before, when various streamer models appeared and took the market by storm. These exceptionally well-built devices boast a comprehensive range of features and offer everything the modern digital audio fan could possibly need. We analogues look at such things with a semi-interested eye, but leave the intensive study to others.

Until now. Eversolo is now expanding its product range with two stereo power amplifiers, of which the larger AMP-F10 is clearly the more interesting. And so I stare, rather stunned, at a perfectly crafted, flawless high-end device weighing 18 kilograms net, offering plenty of power and stability at a list price of €2,580. Naturally, it comes with a wonderfully playful pair of dials in the extremely solid metal front panel. With all due respect: I don't know of anything comparable that could be purchased for even twice the price. At four times the money, we're slowly getting closer. The AMP-F10 is a very straightforward power amplifier with ample reserves in all important areas. It delivers a solid 180 watts into eight ohms and a good 300 watts into four ohms. Thanks to its luxuriously equipped output stage (ten large power transistors per channel), it can be easily operated in bridge mode, and according to the manufacturer, you'll get over 600 watts into eight ohms and 950 watts into four ohms. This is probably only a slight exaggeration, but I haven't tried it.

This device, even with its sophisticated design, largely dispenses with visible screws. The heatsinks thankfully have no sharp edges; everything about the machine appears well thought out. On the rear are balanced and unbalanced inputs (selectable via switch) and a pair of binding posts for the speaker connection. These, and this is one of the very few criticisms, are so cheaply made in China that they seem a bit out of place here. The input sensitivity is switchable, a toggle switch lets you choose between stereo and mono bridged operation, and there are options for signal-controlled power-on, which can also be done via control voltage. The package is complete, simple, and captivating. The instruments on the front are, of course, more decorative than genuine measuring instruments, but the 340 watts at four ohms as a zero-decibel headroom certainly make an impression. Power is switched on via the standby button on the front, and there's also a "real" power switch at the rear of the power input.

Inner values
Shall we take a look inside? Of course. Removing the cover plate turns out to be no small feat, but once you've found the small screws embedded in the sides of the heat sinks, it's quite easy. And anyone who thought Eversolo had blown their bolts on the pretty, high-quality exterior and that all they could come out of it now was a complete waste of time is seriously mistaken. The construction of the device is nothing short of a feast for the eyes and also a true statement in terms of effort.
Power amplifier EverSolo AMP-F10 in review, picture

Everything you need and a little more: the Eversolo from behind
The AMPF10 could actually be placed next to an unbeatable device from Japan in this regard, and it wouldn't have to hide – incredible at this price. I'd bet that Eversolo even paid attention to the color scheme of the components to achieve a harmonious overall appearance.

At the center of the action sits an impressive toroidal transformer. Wrapped in Mu-metal for shielding purposes, it is specified for a load capacity of 1000 VA and is pleasantly quiet in operation. The fact that Eversolo has built in a DC filter that eliminates any DC components from the mains right from the start may also be partly to blame. The transformer is flanked by two sets of four filter capacitors with a trustworthy capacity, which means we can already consider the "power supply" issue satisfactorily resolved. The input board directly on the rear panel houses a shielding metal box where the input amplification takes place. We don't know exactly what happens inside; the manufacturer is more of a general statement. However, we can assume a largely symmetrical arrangement. From there, it goes—and I've actually never seen this in a hi-fi device before—via properly terminated high-frequency cables with plugs and sockets to the two power amplifier boards mounted on the sides of the heatsinks. There, you'll find another mysterious metal box that distributes the signals between the two power amplifier branches. These consist of two sets of five MOSFETs connected in parallel, which leaves a pleasant feeling of reassuring over-dimensioning. Added to this are protective circuits against all kinds of misfortune, so you can sleep soundly in that regard as well.

Is the AMP F-10 a distinctly "audiophile" amplifier concept? Not necessarily. It's a generously dimensioned device with a relatively high level of negative feedback and a correspondingly high damping factor. The distortion level is correspondingly low, and the machine could easily be used for smaller sound reinforcement jobs. That's why I chose one of my approximately 45-year-old Yamaha P-2200s as my listening test opponent. These are in the same performance class and are famous examples of the old "iron pigs." Of course, they also have dial instruments, of course.

The sonic similarity between the two concepts is unmistakable. Both amps operate in a straightforward, unwavering, and agile manner. The Yamaha seems a bit more voluminous in the upper bass range than the Eversolo, which follows the path of virtue a bit more meticulously in this regard. Both amplifiers are undoubtedly designed for loudspeakers that demand the available power reserves, meaning: high-efficiency converters are not the solution of choice here. In the publishing house's listening room, I had excellent experiences with the PS Audio Aspen FR10, which sounded rich, robust, and harmonious with both amps. A clear recommendation for people who like things a bit rougher; I haven't had this much fun with the Truckfighters, the Swedish desert rock band who know how to get people out of their seats, in a long time. The opener, "Last Curfew," already impressively demonstrates where things are headed: the AMP-F10 places the brutally heavy guitar riffs in the room with incredible dynamics, peeling the guitar from the bigger picture with astonishing clarity (it does this better than the Yamaha), and practically nailing the listener to the arm of the sofa. Absolutely magnificent. The late Leonard Cohen probably represents the exact opposite of this requirement profile. Here, too, the AMP-F10 delivers a very tidy performance with a perfectly isolated voice. Anyone looking for a delicate, ethereal vocal reproduction will probably have to save up for an Air Tight amplifier; the Eversolo does it rather unspectacularly and straightforwardly, but definitely not wrong. This is an excellent amplifier for (almost) all situations.

Measured:
Power amplifier EverSolo AMP-F10 in review, picture

The Eversolo's measurements are also flawless. The perfectly linear frequency response extends to just below 100 kilohertz. The signal-to-noise ratio at one watt into eight ohms is a clean 90 decibels (A), the channel separation is excellent at 85.6 decibels (A), and the total harmonic distortion is 0.037 percent. At four ohms, the values remain virtually unchanged. The output power is 183 watts into eight ohms and 303 watts into four ohms, which is certainly more than enough. The relatively low power consumption of 85.7 watts at idle indicates that this speaker isn't operating with excessive quiescent current.


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It's rather easy to estimate whether it's a problem with your speakers. Just look at its impedance plot: is it less than 8 Ohm in that frequency range above 10kHz? You'll be fine. Is it way more than 8 Ohm? It'll be noticeable.
 
@amirm: perhaps it is time to take a look at their US$ 2,480 „fat boy“ -presumed SINAD is 82 dB - (according to LP-Magazin.de just 68 dB!!!) but it has a huge amount of power!
Translated via google from this German link:

Power amplifier Eversolo AMP-F10​

Eversolo:
So it's happened. China has arrived in the high-end audio segment and is giving the established competition a run for their money. With the power amplifier under discussion here, I have, for the first time, a device on my table that ticks all the boxes for audiophiles and is available at an unrivaled price. The "About Us" page on the company's website reveals that Eversolo "is led by a team with extensive hi-fi industry experience." Interestingly, not a single one of the nine men pictured there is Chinese. The company is nevertheless based in Shenzhen, one of the high-tech centers of the Middle Kingdom. No one in our cultural circles had ever heard of Eversolo until last year or the year before, when various streamer models appeared and took the market by storm. These exceptionally well-built devices boast a comprehensive range of features and offer everything the modern digital audio fan could possibly need. We analogues look at such things with a semi-interested eye, but leave the intensive study to others.

Until now. Eversolo is now expanding its product range with two stereo power amplifiers, of which the larger AMP-F10 is clearly the more interesting. And so I stare, rather stunned, at a perfectly crafted, flawless high-end device weighing 18 kilograms net, offering plenty of power and stability at a list price of €2,580. Naturally, it comes with a wonderfully playful pair of dials in the extremely solid metal front panel. With all due respect: I don't know of anything comparable that could be purchased for even twice the price. At four times the money, we're slowly getting closer. The AMP-F10 is a very straightforward power amplifier with ample reserves in all important areas. It delivers a solid 180 watts into eight ohms and a good 300 watts into four ohms. Thanks to its luxuriously equipped output stage (ten large power transistors per channel), it can be easily operated in bridge mode, and according to the manufacturer, you'll get over 600 watts into eight ohms and 950 watts into four ohms. This is probably only a slight exaggeration, but I haven't tried it.

This device, even with its sophisticated design, largely dispenses with visible screws. The heatsinks thankfully have no sharp edges; everything about the machine appears well thought out. On the rear are balanced and unbalanced inputs (selectable via switch) and a pair of binding posts for the speaker connection. These, and this is one of the very few criticisms, are so cheaply made in China that they seem a bit out of place here. The input sensitivity is switchable, a toggle switch lets you choose between stereo and mono bridged operation, and there are options for signal-controlled power-on, which can also be done via control voltage. The package is complete, simple, and captivating. The instruments on the front are, of course, more decorative than genuine measuring instruments, but the 340 watts at four ohms as a zero-decibel headroom certainly make an impression. Power is switched on via the standby button on the front, and there's also a "real" power switch at the rear of the power input.

Inner values
Shall we take a look inside? Of course. Removing the cover plate turns out to be no small feat, but once you've found the small screws embedded in the sides of the heat sinks, it's quite easy. And anyone who thought Eversolo had blown their bolts on the pretty, high-quality exterior and that all they could come out of it now was a complete waste of time is seriously mistaken. The construction of the device is nothing short of a feast for the eyes and also a true statement in terms of effort.
Power amplifier EverSolo AMP-F10 in review, picture

Everything you need and a little more: the Eversolo from behind
The AMPF10 could actually be placed next to an unbeatable device from Japan in this regard, and it wouldn't have to hide – incredible at this price. I'd bet that Eversolo even paid attention to the color scheme of the components to achieve a harmonious overall appearance.

At the center of the action sits an impressive toroidal transformer. Wrapped in Mu-metal for shielding purposes, it is specified for a load capacity of 1000 VA and is pleasantly quiet in operation. The fact that Eversolo has built in a DC filter that eliminates any DC components from the mains right from the start may also be partly to blame. The transformer is flanked by two sets of four filter capacitors with a trustworthy capacity, which means we can already consider the "power supply" issue satisfactorily resolved. The input board directly on the rear panel houses a shielding metal box where the input amplification takes place. We don't know exactly what happens inside; the manufacturer is more of a general statement. However, we can assume a largely symmetrical arrangement. From there, it goes—and I've actually never seen this in a hi-fi device before—via properly terminated high-frequency cables with plugs and sockets to the two power amplifier boards mounted on the sides of the heatsinks. There, you'll find another mysterious metal box that distributes the signals between the two power amplifier branches. These consist of two sets of five MOSFETs connected in parallel, which leaves a pleasant feeling of reassuring over-dimensioning. Added to this are protective circuits against all kinds of misfortune, so you can sleep soundly in that regard as well.

Is the AMP F-10 a distinctly "audiophile" amplifier concept? Not necessarily. It's a generously dimensioned device with a relatively high level of negative feedback and a correspondingly high damping factor. The distortion level is correspondingly low, and the machine could easily be used for smaller sound reinforcement jobs. That's why I chose one of my approximately 45-year-old Yamaha P-2200s as my listening test opponent. These are in the same performance class and are famous examples of the old "iron pigs." Of course, they also have dial instruments, of course.

The sonic similarity between the two concepts is unmistakable. Both amps operate in a straightforward, unwavering, and agile manner. The Yamaha seems a bit more voluminous in the upper bass range than the Eversolo, which follows the path of virtue a bit more meticulously in this regard. Both amplifiers are undoubtedly designed for loudspeakers that demand the available power reserves, meaning: high-efficiency converters are not the solution of choice here. In the publishing house's listening room, I had excellent experiences with the PS Audio Aspen FR10, which sounded rich, robust, and harmonious with both amps. A clear recommendation for people who like things a bit rougher; I haven't had this much fun with the Truckfighters, the Swedish desert rock band who know how to get people out of their seats, in a long time. The opener, "Last Curfew," already impressively demonstrates where things are headed: the AMP-F10 places the brutally heavy guitar riffs in the room with incredible dynamics, peeling the guitar from the bigger picture with astonishing clarity (it does this better than the Yamaha), and practically nailing the listener to the arm of the sofa. Absolutely magnificent. The late Leonard Cohen probably represents the exact opposite of this requirement profile. Here, too, the AMP-F10 delivers a very tidy performance with a perfectly isolated voice. Anyone looking for a delicate, ethereal vocal reproduction will probably have to save up for an Air Tight amplifier; the Eversolo does it rather unspectacularly and straightforwardly, but definitely not wrong. This is an excellent amplifier for (almost) all situations.

Measured:
Power amplifier EverSolo AMP-F10 in review, picture

The Eversolo's measurements are also flawless. The perfectly linear frequency response extends to just below 100 kilohertz. The signal-to-noise ratio at one watt into eight ohms is a clean 90 decibels (A), the channel separation is excellent at 85.6 decibels (A), and the total harmonic distortion is 0.037 percent. At four ohms, the values remain virtually unchanged. The output power is 183 watts into eight ohms and 303 watts into four ohms, which is certainly more than enough. The relatively low power consumption of 85.7 watts at idle indicates that this speaker isn't operating with excessive quiescent current.



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You can get that kinda performance (SINAD and power) from pro poweramps for A TENTH of the money. :facepalm:
 
I probably wouldn't purchase this amplifier. But it wouldn't be because there's a problem with "load dependency." There clearly isn't.
It's really simple to see why load dependency is a whole lot more important than anything else for an amp.
Have a look at the chart below:

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That's the actual output when an amp is load depended through various impedances, the most intersting one being the simulated speaker (orange trace)

A lot more to see here with more real speaker simulations.
 
;) You can get that kinda performance (SINAD and power) from pro poweramps for A TENTH of the money. :facepalm:
But not half as beautiful! I am a WiiM user, but anybody who wants these eversolo streamers (and why not amps?) has my full respect. Indeed: As far as I know even the scientific audiophile has bought an eversolo Streamer from his parents money ;).
 
This is a really weird position to take. Clearly there is an issue with load dependency, as in the frequency response depends on the load's impedance at high frequencies. I honestly can't figure out why you're arguing with Amir about this. A simulated complex load can be helpful as an example of how frequency response can vary, but as Amir said it doesn't tell anyone how the amp will actually interact with their speaker's load.
I'm not arguing with Amir about this. Clearly you're not seeing the forest for the trees.

This amplifier has very low output impedance. It's basically a voltage source, and not load dependent......in the audio range.
What you are seeing is the effect of the low-pass filter way up at the top of the range. There's only about 1db difference at 20Khz between 4 and 8 ohm loads.
I can't hear that. Neither can you. And there'd have to be signal in your program material at that frequency to even attempt to hear it. :)

I wouldn't disagree that this is a characteristic of these amplifiers that should be improved. But I'm just not all wound up about it.
Now, an amplifier that has significant output impedance (like maybe 1 ohm or higher) IS an amplifier that has a "load dependency" issue.

We might have a different definition of what "load dependency" means. That's probably the misunderstanding here.
 
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Is anybody of you computer guys out there able to plot a damping factor graph of one of these typical TI5532 based Amps with + 1.0 dB at 8 Ohm at 20 kHz and - 0.5 dB at 4 Ohm at 20 kHz?
We have seen that behavior so often!
Perhaps with a logarithmic scale like damping factor 2.5 / 5 / 10 / 20 / 40 / 80 / 160 / 320 on the y-axis.

@amirm says that it is a fixed relation between the frequency plots he is showing in his tests and a potential damping factor plot, which I really would like to see over the whole frequency range by any manufacturer in their spec sheets!!!
 
There's only about 1db difference at 20Khz between 4 and 8 ohm loads.
1.5 dB - in nearly every single non pfft Amp!
What if the tweeter is acting in the 16 Ohm range?
The TI5532 amps (if non-pfft) would simply sound to bright.
Manufacturers should be forced to tell the damping factor of any Amp at 20 kHz as well as at 1000 Hz!
 
This amplifier has very low output impedance. It's basically a voltage source, and not load dependent......in the audio range.
Not true at all. It has a rising output impedance with frequency. If it were a true voltage source at 20 kHz, there would be no change in response.
What you are seeing is the effect of the low-pass filter way up at the top of the range. There's only about 1db difference at 20Khz between 4 and 8 ohm loads.
I can't hear that. Neither can you.
If you are young enough, you can as the variation is quite broad and hence, will hit more music notes.
 
Not true at all. It has a rising output impedance with frequency. If it were a true voltage source at 20 kHz, there would be no change in response.
Of course it's true. You own measurement demonstrates that.
The deviation we're starting to see at 20khz is interaction with the output filter and the feedback configuration. For almost the entire audio band this amplifier is functioning as a voltage source.

If we had two speakers that were otherwise identical, but one was nominal 4 ohms and the other nominal 8 ohms they would not sound different when connected to this amplifier when playing music.
 
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I've always been intrigued by this amp, which looks like it would be a great companion to my WiiM Ultra, but I guess I'll hold off given the results.

Curious to see how 3E Audio's offering with built-in PSU will compare to this. It's supposed to come in Q4.
 
I'm wondering if this device has a PFFB circuit ?

After all, the latter may not be so useful if you have speakers that will work correctly with this amplifier (LOL) o_O
 
I'm not arguing with Amir about this. Clearly you're not seeing the forest for the trees.

This amplifier has very low output impedance. It's basically a voltage source, and not load dependent......in the audio range.
What you are seeing is the effect of the low-pass filter way up at the top of the range. There's only about 1db difference at 20Khz between 4 and 8 ohm loads.
I can't hear that. Neither can you. And there'd have to be signal in your program material at that frequency to even attempt to hear it. :)

I wouldn't disagree that this is a characteristic of these amplifiers that should be improved. But I'm just not all wound up about it.
Now, an amplifier that has significant output impedance (like maybe 1 ohm or higher) IS an amplifier that has a "load dependency" issue.

We might have a different definition of what "load dependency" means. That's probably the misunderstanding here.
I agree with the general argument that most people overestimate their ability to detect small variations in output in the 10-20kHz range (or in many cases even hear in the 15-20kHz range at all).

That being said, this is a solved problem with Class D designs and the fact that this amplifier struggles with load dependence suggests the engineers aren't really doing their jobs. All other things being equal, why buy this amplifier, with its load dependency issues, when there are many other options for the same or less money that do not have this issue?

Small problem vs. no problem - I'll take no problem.
 
The deviation we're starting to see at 20khz is interaction with the output filter and the feedback configuration.
The result of which is... a rising output impedance towards 20kHz. :facepalm:

For almost the entire audio band this amplifier is functioning as a voltage source.
Yes, almost. Which is not good enough in this day at that price point.
 
The result of which is... a rising output impedance towards 20kHz. :facepalm:


Yes, almost. Which is not good enough in this day at that price point.
Are you under the impression I don't understand the interaction here?

Regards whether it's good enough in this day at this price point, that's a different (value based) discussion.
You might have missed the part up above where I said "I wouldn't disagree that this is a characteristic of these amplifiers that should be improved."
I do agree there are better options, for the price.

I'm just disappointed the term "load dependency" is being thrown around willy-nilly, without understanding the larger context.
 


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I'm just disappointed the term "load dependency" is being thrown around willy-nilly, without understanding the larger context.
I don't think people are ignoring the larger picture. The effect can be objectively demonstrable while also being practically without significance.
 
I'm just disappointed the term "load dependency" is being thrown around willy-nilly, without understanding the larger context.
I don't know why you would curse yourself in this manner...
 
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