Me, solder.
You say Sodder and I say Solder,Nope... Me solder
Sodder, solder, let's call the whole thing off.
S.
Me, solder.
You say Sodder and I say Solder,Nope... Me solder
You say Sodder and I say Solder,
Sodder, solder, let's call the whole thing off.
S.
Do you null each pair out against the reference pair as part of QC?It's simply a contradiction in terms to sell a hifi cable without braid these days.
Everyone knows without it you will get all sorts of problems with soundstage and RF interference........
OK, but who leads? Or is that lead? I dunno', ears of tin... (duckin' and runnin')
I'd totally forgotten this little episode but this thread reminded me... Last year at a local audio store I commented on the open-weave plastic braid on some pricey HDMI cables the salesman was trying to sell me (I needed a new 4K HDMI cable -- ultimately just ordered from Amazon). I don't remember why he said I needed it at first, and I just said I didn't need the abrasion resistance (that is the reason for them on RF cables). He informed me in a rather superior knowing tone that the open weave allowed noise in the cable to get out so the sound and picture were improved. (etc.) There was really no point is responding to that...
One of my guilty pleasures years gone by was to go into an audio shop and ask what this Dolby thing was on their cassette recorders and how did it work. The explanations were pure joy in their inventiveness.I get the feeling some of you blokes go into stores for entertainment..
...I have been in exactly one store, one time, in maybe 20 years...
My new test is using a perfect anti matter version of the cable. If they cease to exist when brought into contact they pass the QC. If you see on the news a large hole in Western Australia has appeared then something went wrong.Do you null each pair out against the reference pair as part of QC?
I've done that and not without evil intent.I get the feeling some of you blokes go into stores for entertainment..
I may surreptitiously wander into Stereo Exchange this weekend for some giggles...Perhaps they've forgotten about me.
I think they closed their Broadway store and now run a boutique location somewhere in Jersey, I’m presuming close to the city.I may surreptitiously wander into Stereo Exchange this weekend for some giggles. I haven't been in a number of years (I most recently got a disastrously incompetent demo of the B&W 805Ds there). Perhaps they've forgotten about me.
Nope. Closed the big shop on Broadway near Houston and now at 857 Broadway just off Union Square.I think they closed their Broadway store and now run a boutique location somewhere in Jersey, I’m presuming close to the city.
We know it is abundantly easy to have people perceive a difference where there is none entering their ear.
We know it is abundantly hard for the sound that enters one's ear to be different based on cable differences.
What should a reasonable person conclude?
(From Paul's website see link above)
If our goal is to understand why we hear a difference then it’s incumbent on us to dig deeper. Our hypothesis didn’t give us the results we were looking for. Our ears detect a difference our meters and methods fail to uncover. The proper conclusion is not to stop there but to march forward until it can be satisfactorily explained.
Garth Powell of Audioquest proposed a method that just might have some answers. Since the change we hear comes out of the loudspeakers and affects the entire audio chain, it’s only logical we measure the entire chain to seek differences. This would involve using a microphone to capture the output of the system and then comparing the recorded files to find the differences. It’s essentially the same test I have done any number of times with the microphone in my iPhone which more than adequately picks up differences.
I haven’t the time nor the interest in performing these tests with any scientific rigor, but perhaps someone else wants to grab the flag and climb the mountain. It would have to be performed on a system where we actually do hear a difference.
Proving what we already know might be valuable to someone.
Just not me.
OK, but.
Paul and Garth Powell seem to be suggesting an objective scientific test that uses measurement to determine whether cables make a difference.
It appears to be similar to Ethan's null tester in concept, except that a loudspeaker's output is measured instead of the cable's output.
If correctly set up, this test should be a valid measurable objective test...right?
Paul goes further saying he regularly does this...and huge differences are measurable...even using the mic on his I-Phone.
Garth Powell did a sighted/subjective version of this test at CES last year "proving" that AC power cords impact sound....using a camcorder mic as the recording device. Analog Planet's Michael Fremer writes: "The differences were critical and easily heard by all in attendance. It was no more "conformational bias" than would be showing a color and black and white photo and asking which was which."
So, what slight of hand is being used here? And, how could an objective scientifically valid test measuring the differences in a signal recorded from speaker outputs be made?