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Erin, giveaways on Youtube are a super easy way to grow your channel with subscribers.

Just make a video to say what the requirements are, who can enter (what country), and when the giveaway ends.

Just saying...
I have no issues with using Facebook to do the giveaways. I’ve done it before. I quite like it.

Just sayin... ;)
 

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LOL... Man, I know how to desolder. But, the point is... they would see the pictures and tests of the drivers off on their own and know what I did. I don't want to do that. Especially since the plan is for them to send me some more stuff to review after these. ;)
Just post the measurements under the name Aaron's Audio Corner. They'll never know who did it! ;-)
 

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So, with all respect, and absolutely no intent to flame or otherwise cause a problem - we forgo perhaps extremely interesting tests because the sponsor might be unhappy?

I'm reminded of amir's earlier Schitt reviews. Eventually, Schitt took the negatives and learned from them. Product improved.

Could this not be the case with Revel?

You tests are the most comprehensive, thorough, and informative of any driver tests. Period. Why not give Revel the benefit of them?

??? What is Revel going to learn from the review??? They pretty much invented the methodology themselves.
 

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So, with all respect, and absolutely no intent to flame or otherwise cause a problem - we forgo perhaps extremely interesting tests because the sponsor might be unhappy?
I'm not clear on what benefit driver tests here would provide consumers.

You can't buy the drivers. They're proprietary, and I would not be surprised if Revel needs a serial number to sell a replacement. (I do not know one way or the other.) If it used offbeat off-the-shelf drivers then I could see the DIYer interest in seeing raw driver data, because a DIYer could buy those drivers and use them in their own application.

So what's the point of testing the drivers outside the system they're designed to work in?
 

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I'm not clear on what benefit driver tests here would provide consumers.
So what's the point of testing the drivers outside the system they're designed to work in?
Beats me. Erin will measure all of the relevant system performance characteristics, so what difference does it make what the raw driver characteristics are, other than pure intellectual curiosity to see how Harman delt, or failed to deal, with any problem areas?
 

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curiosity to see how Harman delt, or failed to deal, with any problem areas?
Possibly could lead to improvements. Happened before:
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index...-pioneer-sp-bs22-lr-diy-modifications.610820/

Perhaps a current question (mine at least) where such driver measurements might lead to improvements - the much discussed Infinity R162. Measures good enough that DSP PEQ 'corrections' make it punch 'well above it's price' - Except - it's high distortion spike. I think I've read about as many posts blaming the tweeter as the woofer. Which is it? Measuring each driver might tell us which - or both. And knowing that, we can proceed to consider corrections.(xover, whatever).

I'm personally one who thinks you can never have too much information about anything. You can certainly question the value of getting it - but it's value often has an annoying dependency on that which you beforehand don't know. That is, it's value isn't known until you have it.

Enough from me on this topic. Looking forward to Erin's review of the Revel tower - and many more..:)
 

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The Huey Lewis t-shirt makes me think of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho. Hopefully you don't take a chainsaw to these speakers! :p
 

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Gotcha. Didn't watch the video. I'm not even sure I paid attention to the link because when I saw "PSA" I thought "Power Sound Audio." :)
On that note, I do want to see PowerSoundAudio speakers tested by someone. Matthew Poes measured a JTR and they were surprisingly really good, and I consider PSA a little brother to JTR in terms of design and offerings.
 
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As part of my review process, I’ll listen to speakers in different settings (rooms) over multiple days. I feel like this helps to get me acclimated to the speakers' sound instead of me giving a knee-jerk reaction. Often times first impressions do not live up to long-term scrutiny. Kind of like how bright speakers may sound detailed at first but over time are just aggravating and annoying.

As I listen, I often use my phone to take quick notes on things I do or do not like while I am enjoying different music or a movie. This is one such note I jotted down about the F226Be:
“Incredible dynamic range. I can listen at 65dB and feel content. Good speaker to sit and go through your entire library. But.., they will play 105dB at 14 feet without breaking a sweat.”

These speakers were shaking the walls in my living room. And there was no audible distortion (mechanical or acoustical) even when playing at very high levels. The below picture shows I was hovering around 100-105dB at 14 feet. That's without a subwoofer.



Then, Saturday night I took the opportunity to fire up Huey Lewis and the News’ Sports tour via YouTube. Yea, YT Audio quality sucks. But, I tell you what... I absolutely enjoyed that hour sitting on the couch listening to that through the Revels. No ear fatigue from having to turn it up like normal to get good dynamics. I can’t tell you the last time I was able to listen to music for that long without having ear fatigue. This might just be my favorite feature of these speakers; that I don't feel the need to turn the volume up to unsafe levels for extended listening times.


These speakers kick ass.


As for testing... these speakers are kicking my ass. They're heavy. I tried to start measuring this past weekend but it was too windy.



Few photos. Oh, and if you haven't heard these songs, you might want to check them out.

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I've sent a pair of woofers to Erin for testing with the Klippel machine. These will be part of a giveaway.
Great! Thanks! Hopefully, Erin will not again tie this to Facebook.

Not another dime to Schmuckerberg for me. The world would be a far better place without Facebook IMO. Just my view.. From an old f--t..
 

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I'm not clear on what benefit driver tests here would provide consumers.

You can't buy the drivers. They're proprietary, and I would not be surprised if Revel needs a serial number to sell a replacement. (I do not know one way or the other.) If it used offbeat off-the-shelf drivers then I could see the DIYer interest in seeing raw driver data, because a DIYer could buy those drivers and use them in their own application.

So what's the point of testing the drivers outside the system they're designed to work in?
It is possible that the drivers are in fact very similar to off the shelf SB drivers. It will be interesting to see how closely they measure to those. Maybe someone will reverse engineer something like a F226be, but it will be $2,000. They could call it the Rebel C65we (short for cheap 6.5" weeeeeeee).
 
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