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I dunno... it's all a one-sided story at this point. Maybe if we heard the Revel side of the story it would reflect poorly elsewhere. Point is, we don't know the details. Don't think we ever will. And without more information, there's nothing left but speculation. I'm ready for the next topic. :)
 
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I dunno... it's all a one-sided story at this point. Maybe if we heard the Revel side of the story it would reflect poorly elsewhere. Point is, we don't know the details. Don't think we ever will. And without more information, there's nothing left but speculation. I'm ready for the next topic. :)
This is a good point. There is really not enough data at this point to make a conclusion based on some macro photographs and a few facebook posts. Would be nice to hear from Revel but my guess is we will not...
 

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I think Revel can withstand this onslaught, assuming they really did use genuine SB drivers initially. If you then outsource drivers that look pretty much identical to SB Acoustic ceramics, you should expect that might get out. Most of us smaller speaker "companies" are very up front about the heritage of our drivers.
Not the SB Acoustics ceramics, but the regular aluminum SB woofers with the 'ribs.'
 

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I still think it's a misunderstanding.

These are not confirmed facts, but this is what I *think* is true:

1. The Revel Performa3 used SB Acoustics drivers, the aluminum cones.
2. The Revel Performa3 *still* uses SB Acoustics drivers with the aluminum cones.
3. When the PerformaBe series came out, everybody assumed they also used SB Acoustics drivers, the ceramic cones.
4. They were wrong. The PerformaBe series uses Revel ceramic drivers made in China.
5. A quote from former SB Acoustics persons implies Revel started out using SB Acoustics, then copied them and started making their own copies.
6. That quote doesn't tell us which Revel he was referring to - the Performa3 or the PerformaBe - nor which SB drivers they supposedly copied - the standard aluminum or the ceramic.
7. Revel may have started out working with SB Acoustics on a ceramic driver for their PerformaBe series, then changed their plans and went with their own ceramic drivers that ARE NOT copies of the SB Acoustics ceramic drivers.
 
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Future test - no one better than Erin to test both Revel SB acoustics, Performa3, PerformaBe/Chinese clone(?) and for good measure, Infinity R263 woofers - that I really would like to see. Super shootout!
 
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This is certainly cornfusing. My best guess is that they're both excellent drivers. Whichever they are. I'm sure Revel wouldn't use anything less. On to the speaker review. Whichever it is.
 
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I snapped some cool pix. I planned to test the drivers separately but they don't disconnect. They'd have to be de-soldered. I don't want to go through that (and, frankly, I wouldn't feel right doing that since these aren't mine).



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Midrange vs Midwoofer (top vs bottom). Look at the surround. Notice how much slimmer the surround on the midrange is? I have to think this is to help with not just the midrange but also the tweeter. But maybe I'm wrong.


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Midwoofer Pictures:

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No no no! Can I send you an iron? Easy peezy..really!
LOL... Man, I know how to desolder. But, the point is... they would see the pictures and tests of the drivers off on their own and know what I did. I don't want to do that. Especially since the plan is for them to send me some more stuff to review after these. ;)
 

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I don't want to do that. Especially since the plan is for them to send me some more stuff to review
So, with all respect, and absolutely no intent to flame or otherwise cause a problem - we forgo perhaps extremely interesting tests because the sponsor might be unhappy?

I'm reminded of amir's earlier Schitt reviews. Eventually, Schitt took the negatives and learned from them. Product improved.

Could this not be the case with Revel?

You tests are the most comprehensive, thorough, and informative of any driver tests. Period. Why not give Revel the benefit of them?
 
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So, with all respect, and absolutely no intent to flame or otherwise cause a problem - we forgo perhaps extremely interesting tests because the sponsor might be unhappy?

I'm reminded of amir's earlier Schitt reviews. Eventually, Schitt took the negatives and learned from them. Product improved.

Could this not be the case with Revel?

You tests are the most comprehensive, thorough, and informative of any driver tests. Period. Why not give Revel the benefit of them?
I wish I hadn’t mentioned it. Time is another factor. I simply don’t want to do a complete deconstruction. That’s that.
 
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