solderdude
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Do these vacuum cleaners need any burn in ... or do their electronics burn out over time ?
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Equipment burn-in: am I deluded?
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A similar scheme operates on white goods in many countries. I suspect it's been quite effective, as it's become so ubiquitous. However, in that case the consumer is alerted to future costs to themselves.
The main issue is that people tend to be stingy (or thrifty if you prefer) and short-sighted, particularly when encouraged by marketing and consumer culture. I think labelling could address this if if, as it does with white goods, it could demonstrate simply what the cost would be to the purchaser.
If the approach were simply to show the cost to the earth/humanity generally, I think a small group of consumers would be influenced, but maybe not a critical mass.
All just idle speculation here however
About 15 years ago I bought a Miele washing machine, fridge freezer and tumble dryer. They weren't cheap but they are built to a genuinely high standard to last and why would you replace a good washing machine that works? Alternatively I know lots of people who bought cheaper alternatives from Whirlpool, Bosch, AEG etc that have been replaced when they fall over. There is something to be said for the idea of "buy once, but buy right". I bought Miele because when I was at sea the only two washing machine brands that were capable of standing up to the abuse thrown at them (they were basically running 24/7 to wash oily boiler suits etc) were Miele and Maytag. And we don't really get Maytag in the UK.
I was born into a world that much of the things being built were technically simple and easy to fix. There was little in the way of household items, that if you were halfway mechanically skilled, you couldn't repair yourself. Things have now changed drastically, some for the better, some worse. Metallurgy, machining capabilities and assembly techniques have improved to a point that the car you buy today should run approx 3x as long as one bought in the 1950-60s without major drive-line issues. But lord have mercy if something does act up technically, only option is a trip to the dealer and his diagnostic computer to figure out why those lights on the dash are blinking.
graz_lag
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Exactly, I bought what they call "universal diagnostic computer" which was supposed to speak to many of the major car brands ... It speaks in fact but only in reading mode, one cannot reset that blinking light ... so the trip to the dealer cannot be avoided, unfortunately, so neither the $110/hr. rate ...
I picked one of these (the $49.95 device). It will talk to phones/tablets/laptops.
https://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/smart-phone/
It resets the Check Engine Light if you want to, the software is not bad. Creates extensive log files on the external device. Will talk to third party software if you want.
The OBD-II ports became standard equipment in 1996 in the US.
My '95 Maxima has one, though, lucked out there. Has limited but still useful sensor engagement.
The car has been to "the shop" once, when still new, towed, for a warranty battery replacement. They fucked up the repair.
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graz_lag
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Great ! I like their statement : "MORE VEHICLES: All 1996 and newer OBD-II compliant vehicles - NO EXCEPTIONS"
There is a $10 coupon on Amazon so I am going to order it there for $89.95.
Good luck... I'm satisfied with my lesser version.
The only thing I don't like, it can't "continue" if the car is turned off - reconnects and starts a new session and log on restart. Might be able to get around that if you put the key into the "run" position quickly after (temporarily) stopping the engine, like at a gas stop - might not disconnect.
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They would need to keep working first.
restorer-john
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I trying my hardest to resist. I really want to start a long rant on Dyson...
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I find like Ray is saying, get one of the scanners and the OBD II helps with diagnostics. If you look on youtube or forums for your car you can usually find the issue and even video showing how to fix it. I've fixed or help fix quite a number of check engine/service engine issues saving quite a bit of money. Sometimes you'll need specialized tools, but most of those can be loaned by auto parts stores.
I have one like Rays though a different name. It bluetooth connects to my phone and has software for logging long term, or monitoring parameters for intermittent problems as well as your more basic functions. You might not fix everything, but there is plenty a fellow can do saving lots of expensive labor even on modern cars. It also can use the GPS on a phone or table combined with the read out from the car's system to automatically do 0-60 and quarter mile times and speeds.
Works to reasonable success if you have at least mid-level computer skills for not only the diagnostic stage, but also using google, etc; to find the rest of the info. Often folks with hard tool skills lack the technology stuff and vise versa. Most geeks don't know one end of a wrench from the other. LOL
Yeah, stuff was easier in the old days.
I had a Pinto.
It would stop running and I'd have to "jiggle the points".
I became proficient at changing the timing belt too. Crescent wrench and broomstick, took about 10 minutes.
I had a Pinto.
It would stop running and I'd have to "jiggle the points".
I became proficient at changing the timing belt too. Crescent wrench and broomstick, took about 10 minutes.
A girlfriend made me buy one once,, I curse her every time I use the pos I was happy with my Henry hoover.
This looks like my life lolA beautiful Honda Civic ready for the beer can farm.
Think it will buff out?
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