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Emotiva BasX A7+ 7-Channel Amp Review

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 10 5.0%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 116 57.7%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 73 36.3%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 2 1.0%

  • Total voters
    201
For not much more money, a Hypex NCx252MP 6-Channel ($1350@Buckeye) gets you more power and much better specs in every way, likely including longevity due to cooler operating conditions. I realize that a 30% increase is not insignificant, but sometimes the cheapest way to go is not the cheapest in the long run
Some support for your argument - two reviews from 2020 and 2023, the performance of the later 2 channel review is what I would base my decision on, even though I was looking at a 6 channel amp.


 
That's not what he said. He was referring to extra effort to optimize the design.

At the risk of stating the obvious, we are here to reward results, not effort.
That is clear to me, and that is exactly what I meant.
However, the reality of development is that the first 95% accounts for 10% of the cost, while the final 5% accounts for 90%.
That is why the last 1–5% is often skimped on.
And to be honest, the amplifiers that measure exceptionally well tend to fall into just a few categories: those based on specific platforms (TPA325x, Purifi, Hypex) and those from a handful of highly specialized manufacturers (Benchmark, SONCOZ, manufacturers utilizing Hypex/Purifi modules, Topping, 3E Audio, SCIBER, etc.). Over the last few years, these entities have invested an unimaginable number of development hours and a massive amount of capital.
Given this level of highly specialized expertise, other manufacturers simply cannot keep up anymore.

In Emotiva's case, there is the additional factor that their products are not sold exclusively online; they are also distributed through numerous channels—including specialist retailers with brick-and-mortar stores and countless home theater providers worldwide. This necessitates a completely different pricing structure, which inevitably makes the devices more expensive.

However, you are, of course, right; ultimately, this is primarily about results—specifically objective measurements, power output, and functionality. The rest need not (and indeed should not) be of any concern to the end consumer.

An ALSOZONE / 3E Audio PAM258 falls within the same price range—or is perhaps even slightly cheaper—and would likely beat the Emotiva BasX A7+ decisively in every single respect.

As @EeeGee has already mentioned, four Fosi V3 Stereo units would be a more affordable option.
4 x Fosi V3 Stereo units with 48V 10A power supplies = approx. €500.
4 x Fosi V3 Stereo units with 1 x 48V 10A supply and 3 x 5A supplies = approx. €390.
However, in terms of the best overall value—balancing price, measurements, and power output—for a 7- or 8-channel setup, this combination is likely the winner:
1 x 3E Audio A7 and 3 x Topping Mini 300 = €680.

And that is precisely why ASR—with its independent testing—is so vital; otherwise, how would we ever acquire such reliable information?

Globally, the industry and the landscape of manufacturers are increasingly shifting toward large-scale manufacturers and corporate conglomerates that demonstrate a complete lack of interest in... Customer satisfaction, quality, solid technical measurements, and durability—and, on the other hand, smaller yet highly specialized manufacturers. Everything in between is gradually disappearing. And this trend is not limited to the audio sector alone.

ASR is increasingly becoming a painful thorn in the side of manufacturers delivering abysmal performance—more so than they would care to admit.
And this serves as the best protection for all the excellent manufacturers who continue to deliver ever-improving work.
 
2nd harmonic is around -80dB which is likely below the threshold of audibility but only barely. That's why it's "fine" and "good enough", but there are other options that do far better for a similar price.
I wouldn’t call it barely. A signal -80dB down from “impressively loud” is hard-to-hear-quiet even on its own without any masking. With masking—no chance.

Once you’re below the threshold of audibility, who cares if it’s one decibel or twenty decibels? We can’t hear it, the job is done.

Actually, I care, a little. But only because I like engineering for engineering‘s sake.
 
This reminds me of my old Emotive amp: it popped both off and on and the soundstage narrowed vs my Yamaha Receiver.
Interesting to hear about that, so what do you suppose was the cause of the soundstage narrowing?
 
For not much more money, a Hypex NCx252MP 6-Channel ($1350@Buckeye) gets you more power and much better specs in every way, likely including longevity due to cooler operating conditions. I realize that a 30% increase is not insignificant, but sometimes the cheapest way to go is not the cheapest in the long run
Just a different class altogether. $225 per channel vs $143 per channel. Also, while I agree that the Hypex-based solution is likely more reliable for the reasons you stated, it’s probably easier to get the AB amps fixed locally.

The specs don’t matter much to me. I don’t hear specs. I hear noise and distortion, and I would need much, much more of both before I would notice it. I am worried about the noise of that fan though.
 
the notion expressed here in this forum that spending a hundred, or even hundreds, of hours on development constitutes "no great effort"
Well out of all that effort, we get 80 dB and not significantly more power than an AVR? Surely thousands of hours went into development of the Pontiac Aztek, ugh. I know what you're saying but really isn't it the results that count not the effort? Well I guess the phrase "no great effort" does not apply, true, but is the effort wasted? Probably note, I suppose Emotive will continue to sell some bunch of BasX to folks who want "more power" or to "free up their AVRs power" not realizing that is not likely to happen in any transformational way.
 
How so? I don’t know their advertising but the measurements beat their stated specs and their website description is refreshingly low on the usual marketing puffery and braggadocio.
When they first came out they had their share of puffery. Hard to puff when you have accurate testing right around the corner now.
 
Strange location/positioning of the fans. I would think they would be more useful exhausting air out the back (being mounted on the back side of the case) and thus encouraging airflow through the case rather than being situated inside the middle of the case and blowing already hot air from the transformer over the heat sink.

That's exactly what I thought about those fans...
 
It's refreshing that an amp keeps up and deliver the goods down low by the same amount of the rest of the spectrum, this is often neglected these days.

Nothing too bad, overall.

Thanks Amir!
 
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Emotiva BasX A7+ seven channel home theater amplifier. It was kindly drop shipped to me by a member and costs US $999.
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Conclusions
Most of the measurements can be summed as, "not bad." I wish the company would strive to go a step higher to comply with the brand impression they like to have. A bit more focused on closed loop engineering using measurements could get them there.

My experience: I own a couple of vintage stereo Emotiva amps from IIRC the 1990s that I recapped. For comparison I once owned a pair of model 7140 multichannel amps from Outlaw Audio (current equivalent model is the 7000x). My opinion is that both of these companies are in the "not bad" category but not up in the top tier of today's amplifier manufacturers. Amir's measurements of this particular product bears this out. Honestly both companies offer high-value products that do their job just fine. If you are looking for still better performance, there are other companies that offer a higher standard across the board. But I would recommend these products to anyone but the most picky "audiophile" or someone who is obsessive about the results from the sort of performance measurements performed by Amir, that are undoubtedly very useful and from what I consider to be an unbiased 3rd party. Personally, I DO weigh the performance metrics very strongly when making buying decisions, since I know that the marketing department will tell you just about anything to get you to "believe" in the products they are selling!

Thanks for @amirm for another great review. Keep them coming.
 
Thank you for the informative review. And the other members for showing alternatives! :)

A general question: in a stereo setup with speakers allowing bi-wiring, I can use a multichannel amp for bi-amping the speakers? I would have to split up the output signal of the preamp to several input channels?
 
Teardown see attached file

I'm curious to see the review of the upcoming Alsozone multichannels Pam256 amp by 3E Audio....
And I am looking forward to Amirs reviews of more mainstream integrated amplifiers and speakers and such which millions of people are considering to buy or already owns. I know Amir is depending on devices he gets from users but I think there has been a tsunami of unknown, specialized niche products on the test bench lately. But I guess the manufactors are afraid to send their product to Amir as he tells truth without mercy.
 
Interesting test.
From my point of view, this amplifier is primarily intended for a home theater system. The performance is sufficient for this use, and it is more convenient to connect a single amplifier rather than a series of mono or stereo blocks.
 
Thank you for the informative review. And the other members for showing alternatives! :)

A general question: in a stereo setup with speakers allowing bi-wiring, I can use a multichannel amp for bi-amping the speakers? I would have to split up the output signal of the preamp to several input channels?
Yes. You'll need to send the Left output from the preamp into two ins on the amplifier, and then out to the treble and bass binding posts separately.

Biamping like this won't make a big difference in sound unless you're really starved for power. But with this setup you're only one step away from pulling out the passive crossovers entirely and going active. If you take the preout into something like this Dayton crossover, physically remove the crossover from your speakers and wire the tweeter and the woofer directly to their respective binding posts, you can get a far bigger advantage, because you're now doing the crossover in the digital space prior to amplification, and connecting the amp directly to the drivers, which is much more efficient and allows much more fine-grained control over crossover, EQ, and things like correcting for time alignment of your tweeter and woofer.
 
2nd harmonic is around -80dB which is likely below the threshold of audibility but only barely. That's why it's "fine" and "good enough", but there are other options that do far better for a similar price.
-80?! Can you please link the research that shows this kind of value, I would be immensely surprised. Best I'm seeing is like -50dB. You're probably confusing 2nd harmonic with a higher order, since masking is still very strong and 2nd harmonic is something I would honestly nearly never consider/expect to be an issue. Even when it's audible, it's typically not offensive, with 2nd harmonic being the holy grail of the tube-lovers.
Looking at some of the research I've seen, absolute best-case distortion audibility of the graphs I see is 12th(!!) harmonic at 300Hz@100dB and this is an absolutely insane far-from-music kind of test.
Feel free to take the Klippel distortion test. iirc the highest level was -56dB, which you need 3 correct repetitions for. I managed to do that once, but playback levels were extremely loud. Good luck trying to identify distortion below 40dB from your signal level with non pure tones.
 
Even when it's audible, it's typically not offensive, with 2nd harmonic being the holy grail of the tube-lovers.
There is no evidence that tube lovers are really hearing distortion and prefer things that way. Other than placebo effect, any real change is likely due to high impedance of the tube amp, changing frequency response of the speaker.

The tube amps I have heard, create a spray of distortion and not just 2nd harmonic, especially when you push them. Such distortion is quite audible, muddying the sound and creating high frequency grittiness. This is proof enough that people who buy such gear are not able to discern distortion.
 
-80?! Can you please link the research that shows this kind of value, I would be immensely surprised. Best I'm seeing is like -50dB. You're probably confusing 2nd harmonic with a higher order, since masking is still very strong and 2nd harmonic is something I would honestly nearly never consider/expect to be an issue. Even when it's audible, it's typically not offensive, with 2nd harmonic being the holy grail of the tube-lovers.
Looking at some of the research I've seen, absolute best-case distortion audibility of the graphs I see is 12th(!!) harmonic at 300Hz@100dB and this is an absolutely insane far-from-music kind of test.
Feel free to take the Klippel distortion test. iirc the highest level was -56dB, which you need 3 correct repetitions for. I managed to do that once, but playback levels were extremely loud. Good luck trying to identify distortion below 40dB from your signal level with non pure tones.

It's not clear to me whether the highest discrimination category erases truly exceptional scores because they are not large enough to merit their own category and thus get lumped in with the people who "only" discriminate -56dB down. Nonetheless, I'm confident that -80dB second order is well and thoroughly masked.
 
. A little less noise and distortion, a little less crosstalk, and this could be really good value for the money instead of just "fine".
Still I doubt anyone can hear the difference between this and the one like Topping LA90D.
 
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