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That would be a nice thread. Is there really anyone using these AVR sound effect presets?
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Embracing Simplicity in Audio: Anyone Else Skipping Room Correction, Measurement Microphones, and the Like?
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That would be a nice thread. Is there really anyone using these AVR sound effect presets?
Sgt. Ear Ache
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I sure hope not. I've focused on making sure my system doesn't add any "special FX" of any sort to the sound. I'm certainly not going to push a button that specifically does so...
I know I don't, although at large gathering, like last night,I sent two channel to surround for background music. Toole said multichannel trumps two channel.
OP
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Well observed - I feel I've been recognised.OP is just getting old and cultivating his laziness.
Don’t fall for it people.
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The word "virtue" is certainly not well chosen. Please excuse my dodgy English.
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Your English is fine.
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From my point of view room correction is the best thing ever. I got a used mono system with decent components in 1965 and have been fooling with audio ever since. I'm not an EE or have any professional qualifications but I know what I like and know a volt from an ampere.
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I can wait until the day comes when I'm convinced from this or that specific solution.
That's also a very good point. Another motto of mine is: Solve the problems where they are.
Indeed I don't have any problems in my listening rooms either.
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You think you have no issues with your room or measurements show now issues? I guess 90% of West European houses, typically all concrete and brick and modest dimensions, has issues.
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I would also say one of the easiest simplest systems you can implement is 2 Dutch and Dutch 8c connected to the internet. Adjust a couple of settings, run REW which is very simple on these speakers and you're set.
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I don't regard using room eq as incompatible with simple. It's a technical thing I have to learn and then it's done. Or I can automate it with Dirac, Audyssey and things from Genelec or Neumann.
Once it is done, life is simple again.
We have to learn all sorts of technical things to get a good sound at home. Choosing what speakers to buy is much harder than doing REQ. Sorting out room modes and reverberations is much harder. But when it's done it's done and I'm back to simple.
Once it is done, life is simple again.
We have to learn all sorts of technical things to get a good sound at home. Choosing what speakers to buy is much harder than doing REQ. Sorting out room modes and reverberations is much harder. But when it's done it's done and I'm back to simple.
Sgt. Ear Ache
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To my mind, some sort of basic room EQ is a much much much simpler process than buying and setting up an endless stream of new gear, listening to it for a period of weeks or months thinking all is good, then gradually starting to think maybe all isn't good and looking for new gear, and so on and so on. Measurements, room correction, having an objective end point...simple in the extreme.
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Yes, I've been doing that for a long time. Not least because of the access to an almost paradisiacal selection of music. I've been using computer audio ever since it started.
I normally listen in my study every day with studio monitors directly in the near field. I find that relatively neutral and transparent. I've also always had analogue systems with turntables, tubes and horn speakers, which I sometimes enjoy even more.
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I used to, but I've embraced simplicity.
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There's no simple, or correct, answer - as always.
I suspect that the OP's system sounds good in his room. So why not just keep life simple and enjoy the music.
Not all systems and rooms are like this. If there are obvious problems; booming bass, nulls, muffled vocals, distortion then judicious DSP should bring an improvement.
Some speakers have audible shortcomings. Replacements are expensive, a little correction is cheap.
If you just like tinkering, then measurements and corrections are part of the enjoyment. Same goes for the joy of learning.
Luddites won't go near this stuff.
Audiophools won't accept that digital corruption can ever help (purity of the signal path).
Enjoy the music
I suspect that the OP's system sounds good in his room. So why not just keep life simple and enjoy the music.
Not all systems and rooms are like this. If there are obvious problems; booming bass, nulls, muffled vocals, distortion then judicious DSP should bring an improvement.
Some speakers have audible shortcomings. Replacements are expensive, a little correction is cheap.
If you just like tinkering, then measurements and corrections are part of the enjoyment. Same goes for the joy of learning.
Luddites won't go near this stuff.
Audiophools won't accept that digital corruption can ever help (purity of the signal path).
Enjoy the music
OP
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That is of course well thought out and correctly presented. Have you already gone down this route at home?
What have you done to your system, how did you go about it and what means do you use?
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