ELAC Unifi Reference teasers

[mtmpenn]

I guess I wonder about the accuracy of the PIR down that low, where speaker positioning and room start to impact things.

The dip did not seem to be present in @joentell ’s in-room measurement. Obviously, those are much lower resolution, but still interesting.

 

[Hotwetrat]

I'm currently saving up for these for when they are available in the UK but I won't be comfortable pulling the trigger on them until Amir has jammed his nose deep into the port and had a good sniff around

 

[Kachda]

I'm currently saving up for these for when they are available in the UK but I won't be comfortable pulling the trigger on them until Amir has jammed his nose deep into the port and had a good sniff around

That sounds so dirty

 

[joentell]

I guess I wonder about the accuracy of the PIR down that low, where speaker positioning and room start to impact things.

The dip did not seem to be present in @joentell ’s in-room measurement. Obviously, those are much lower resolution, but still interesting.

I would trust @hardisj's measurements more than I would trust mine especially in the bass region. Because mine is in-room, the placement can easily affect the response in my measurement.

 

[mtmpenn]

I guess that’s sort of my point though. If real world placement fills in the dip, relative to the Klippel’s assumed in-room placement, that could be okay, right?

 

[joentell]

I guess that’s sort of my point though. If real world placement fills in the dip, relative to the Klippel’s assumed in-room placement, that could be okay, right?

I understand what you're saying too. But I could move the speaker a few feet in a different direction in the room and perhaps get and even bigger dip in that location. Bass gets tricky in rooms. But yes, it's possible in certain locations. I'm inclined to say that because it's below the transition frequency, DSP could help a lot.

 

[hardisj]

I understand what you're saying too. But I could move the speaker a few feet in a different direction in the room and perhaps get and even bigger dip in that location. Bass gets tricky in rooms. But yes, it's possible in certain locations. I'm inclined to say that because it's below the transition frequency, DSP could help a lot.

Yep.

 

[Robot]

@joentell

I appreciate the approach you took on your initial Uni-Fi Reference review. Any chance there might be a UB52 vs. UBR62 in the future?

 

[joentell]

@joentell

I appreciate the approach you took on your initial Uni-Fi Reference review. Any chance there might be a UB52 vs. UBR62 in the future?

Yes, I plan on it.

 

[Robot]

Yes, I plan on it.

Fantastic, I look forward to it.

 

[richard12511]

I guess I wonder about the accuracy of the PIR down that low, where speaker positioning and room start to impact things.

The dip did not seem to be present in @joentell ’s in-room measurement. Obviously, those are much lower resolution, but still interesting.

Yeah PIR isn't accurate at that frequency (only for average) anyway, and that slight dip will be swamped by room effects.

That said, I do find that many speakers tend to have an in room dip around that frequency anyway, though maybe that's just my rooms.

 

[Mystical Boar]

Yes, I plan on it.

I think some people would be interested in DBR62/UBR62 comparison - or at least I would.

 

[joentell]

I think some people would be interested in DBR62/UBR62 comparison - or at least I would.

I didn't compare the DBR62, but I did just make a video comparing the Uni-Fi Reference, to the 2.0, to the original UB5.

 

[holbob]

Thanks Joe. Can I ask if the tweeter is "pushinable"? I have a 4 year old. I have DBR62 which is obviously well protected by the grill, and if the UBR62 tweeter is easily damaged then I can rule it out. Thank You.

 

[Mystical Boar]

I have DBR62 which is obviously well protected by the grill

That grill is very light and thin. It seems like you can deform it simply by pushing harder with a finger. TBH I don't really understand what was the point.

Anyway, I, too, own DBR62, so obviously I'm wondering how does it compare to UBR62, which one can mistake for the former.

 

[Streamc]

So Elac lying about theirs specs. Not the first time with DB6.2 midrange speaker size. FREQUENCY RESPONSE 41Hz—35000Hz https://www.elac.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Uni-Fi-Reference-UBR62-Lit-Sheet-Final-5.12.21.pdf
Really? But I still considering to buy them or R200.

 

[Mystical Boar]

Here's a rough Amir's DBR62 in-room vs Erin's UBR62 in-room:

UBR62 look like at least noticeably less bassy speakers.

 

[Music1969]

As do rear ports.

Based on what I have experienced, I'd take a problematic front port over a problematic rear port. The former tends to result in a dip where the latter results in a peak, on-axis.

In Amir's newest review, the Dynaudio Core 47:

 

[kflw935641]

That grill is very light and thin. It seems like you can deform it simply by pushing harder with a finger. TBH I don't really understand what was the point.

I heard it helps with dispersion. There is indeed the effect that waves spread into all directions when the hole they pass through is smaller than their wavelength. But I don't know how well this actually applies to speakers where there might be a lot more factors involved. It is explained somewhere in this video: