Elac FS200-series speakers from around 2009-2014 (FS207, FS207A, FS247 etc.)

[Yersinia Bestmate]

So, I'm trying to keep this post short - does anyone have knowledge of any measurements of the speakers mentioned in the topic, especially FS207/FS207A? I've googled and googled, unfortunately in vain so far. FS207A is a 2.5-way, MTM design with an AMT (I believe it is the third iteration of what Elac itself calls JET) tweeter and two aluminium-sandwich cone bass/midbass drivers in a reflex-loaded enclosure.

I happen to own a pair of white Elac FS207A speakers and I really like them. Bought the pair about three years ago and fell in love at once. The sound - and this is, of course, purely subjective - is non-fatiguing, really easy to listen to, no matter what genre of music I'm playing. The highs are especially sweet but one needs to sit with ears quite precisely at the tweeter level to get the best sound out of them. They also pump out a fair amount of well-articulated bass considering that it only has two 150mm bass/midbass drivers. I was about to do some nf measurements myself but the universe had other plans for me and now I'm stuck with a chronic nerve pain for the rest of my life, so that's not going to happen anytime soon. Moreover, I'm living in Northern-Europe and in the centre of a city, so doing speaker measurements outdoors would be quite a challenge anyway, unless I'll get some help and pack them into the boot of my tiny car and haul them to my childhood home in the countryside next summer. Now that I've been bitten by the Elac-bug, I've been thinking of upgrading to FS247 model at some point.

I'd also be glad to read user opinions/general discussion of the Elacs of the aforementioned era!

Elac FS207A (photo: Hifigear.co.uk)

edit: a couple of typos, sry, english is not my native language

 

[Yersinia Bestmate]

Current setup from rental apartment. Elac FS247 pair with reflex ports stuffed, dac is Topping D50 III, front end Topping A70 Pro, power amp Audiophonics MPA-S250NC XLR. Source is an old Win10 PC with Tidal and EQapo. Elac Sub 2030 which sits on the floor under the power amp is not in use atm as there's hard to find a good spot for it, and all-round concrete walls, ceilings, floors make it PITA to deal with the reverbaration time in frequencies below 80Hz, especially below 40Hz. Listening arrangement is equilateral triangle 240cm/side. Soundwise everything else is pretty much spot on - non-fatiguing, crystal clear reproduction, which has "airiness" I like. Stereo imaging is not the most sharp one, but surprisingly good anyway. I'm pleased with the situation atm.

If anyone else has photos of their systems with Elacs, I'd gladly see how you've been setting up things at your space.

Cheers!
- Yersinia Bestmate

edit: corrected a couple of typos

 

[RandomEar]

Did you contact ELAC about the measurements? In my experience, their customer service is (was?) very friendly and helpful.

Also, if you're looking for any FS247, I will just let you know that those exist in a "Black Edition" (FS247 BE). Supposedly the BE has slightly tighter tolerances for the crossover components, but mostly they just look cooler. At least in my opinion

 

[Yersinia Bestmate]

Managed to find a couple of measurements of Elac FS 247 from a Polish hifi-magazine Audio, the review article has been written in 2012 by Andrzej Kisiel. have no idea how reliable the graphs presented are, presumably they're gated nearfield measurements. Sadly the graphs are of very poor resolution.

Frequency response. In the bass region the upper plot is both ports open, the lower one with the upper port blocked. Hard to tell what plot is what because of the potato resolution.

Impedance with both ports open and with the upper port blocked. Min. value seems to be about 3,5 ohm @ 200 Hz but it dips under 4 ohm @ 40 Hz as well.

All in all the measurements look better than what I expected, although there is a wide dip from around ~2,5kHz to ~4kHz. In practice this doesn't bother at all and doesn't really show up on my room response measurements.

This is the measured room response of Elac FS247 pair in my listening space with EQ in use and with 1/6 smoothing. Distance to the mic ~240cm with the speakers facing directly the listening spot. The HF droop above 10kHz is because of the measurement was made in stereo (was too lazy to remeasure separately). In reality the HF response starts to roll of after approx. 16kHz. Both ports on both speakers are blocked in this measurement and in addition to a couple of minor(ish) corrections between 200Hz and 400Hz, there's a 2,5dB LS filter in place under 100Hz, as well as a shallow HS filter above 2kHz. Other than the two bigger dips at 75Hz and 110Hz - not bad IMO.

 

[Yersinia Bestmate]

Did you contact ELAC about the measurements? In my experience, their customer service is (was?) very friendly and helpful.

Also, if you're looking for any FS247, I will just let you know that those exist in a "Black Edition" (FS247 BE). Supposedly the BE has slightly tighter tolerances for the crossover components, but mostly they just look cooler. At least in my opinion

Yeah I was looking for the BE version but there were none on sale (at decent price and distance) when I bought this pair last spring. The crossover is supposed to be better in BE version but in practice the differences ought to be very small between the "basic" and BE versions.

I haven't contacted Elac. Last time I tried to ask transducer parameters in order to find a replacement driver for FS 217 I was greeted first with silence and then "cannot tell anything, stop asking" attitude so I thought I'm not going to waste time this time.

And I do agree - Black Edition does look a lot better!