ELAC Debut 6.2 - For Desktop (Nearfield) or Small Room (20 sqm)

[sound67]

I'm still in the process of overhauling my Stereo systems (PC workplace nearfield & Bedroom), and in this process I just bought the ELAC Debut 6.2 bookshelf speakers.

Here's my thought: I could use them either to replace my Klipsch Reference RB-75's, much more expensive (US$ 1,600) back in the day, but that was 20+ years ago, or replacing my active Adam A5's, also almost 20 years old, active monitors in nearfield. I got two mini amplifiers (class D and class D + tube pre-stage) to drive them in either scenario.

Or am I just completely wrong-headed to even entertain such an idea, and no setup with the ELAC's could replace either?

 

[Joe Smith]

I have used them in a nearfield system to good effect, powered either by an Aiyima A07 or a Marantz 2216 (16wpc). Using for a large room system to replace the Klipsch...possibly, but you'd have to see how they sound to you. It's helpful for these that the porting is in front so specific placement against walls and corners is more forgiving.

 

[mhardy6647]

Awfully big boxes for desktop.
Probably fine for a small room.
Is 20 m^2 "small"? Doesn't seem so to me.

The pair I had* filled my room (ca. 60 m^2, if I did my arithmetic correctly) pretty well driven by a 100-ish wpc, rather vintage Yamaha "AVR" (Dolby ProLogic-era) in stereo mode.


(not necessarily a recommended configuration, nor the only one that I tried -- and a different Yamaha receiver in this older photo!)

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* I never really cared that much for the sound of the "Debut 2.0 B6.2" I bought a few years back, so I packed 'em up and sold them at an area swapmeet just last Sunday.

 

[sound67]

The bedroom isn't that big, 20 square meters (4.5 by 4.5 meters). I could place them 1m (3 feet) from the wall, on stands, angled towards my bed.

 

[mhardy6647]

PS If the pair you just picked up are the pair I sold on Sunday -- congratulations! They're wonderful, outstanding loudspeakers! You'll love 'em!!!

In all seriousness, they're OK, and not bad for their modest cost... but they're also nothing special, IMO and FWIW.

 

[Steven Holt]

I have these speakers. Unless you have a desk the size of Joe Biden's, they're probably going to be a little too big for you. Why don't you have a look at the Q Acoustics 30XX lineup?

 

[mhardy6647]

Unless you have a desk the size of Joe Biden's, they're probably going to be a little too big for you.

Quote of the day, right there, folks!

 

[DanielT]

A little about room acoustics and placement of speakers. Against the back wall, here it is discussed:

Speakers against front wall - can this be settled?

Apologies if this has been summarized already on ASR but I could not find it. Based on this image from Genelec, shouldn't all full-range speakers be near to the front wall? I have heard the advice that for best stereo image the speakers should be away from the front wall. Is this "away from...

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First lateral reflex:

I-or:
It has been known, and well described scientifically, for at least 40 years that high levels of early lateral reflections confuse hearing and should be kept low. However, the conditions in two-channel listening rooms are completely different from concert halls, which is why one should be very careful with comparisons here.

In practice, this means that you should mount absorbers at the first reflection area on the side walls or use textile panels or thick curtains/drapes if you want to optimize your listening room. An area of approx. 0.5-1 m2 is sufficient and in addition it is most important to have good absorption from approx. 1 kHz and up, which is why it is reasonable to have an absorbent thickness of approx. 4 cm. More low-frequency reflections are conveniently handled via equalization.

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I-ors respons to this video:

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Thick carpets on the floor in front of the speakers are, usually, sensible.

Edit:
For the topic of the thread OT? In any case, thick carpets and thick curtains can always be placed in the listening/living room.

 

[sound67]

PS If the pair you just picked up are the pair I sold on Sunday -- congratulations! They're wonderful, outstanding loudspeakers! You'll love 'em!!!

In all seriousness, they're OK, and not bad for their modest cost... but they're also nothing special, IMO and FWIW.

What did you not like about the ELAC's?

 

[mhardy6647]

What did you not like about the ELAC's?

I didn't care for the tonal balance. They had an artificial sound that didn't appeal to me. They do a nice job of disappearing, though -- i.e., their dispersion was pretty good. Very good for the $. I bought them on a big sale from Amazon in (IIRC) the fall of 2018 for less than $200 (USD) the pair. I bought a pair of Polk R200 when they came out (at an excellent introductory sale price -- but still more than twice the cost, in fairness) and like them much better (FWIW). The latter are rather more US-centric (brand and model), though, I suspect.

 

[sound67]

I think so. The different Polk models aren't really popular around here, but the ELAC speakers are. I don't wanna play the order & return game too much either, and I can't possibly afford the setups I was used to in the early 2000's (5,000$ speakers and $5,000 amp). I'm just looking for pleasing solutions for my two scenarios (bedoom & PC nearfield) at an affordable cost. These past few years I almost exclusively listened with headphones, so "room sound" is something I still have to re-adjust to.

 

[DanielT]

What did you not like about the ELAC's?

They seem fine, from what I understand. But, I would have added subwoofers with them.

 

[sound67]

For the bedroom I do use a subwoofer (also ELAC Debut), for the PC nearfield I don't think I would need one.

 

[Joe Smith]

The bedroom isn't that big, 20 square meters (4.5 by 4.5 meters). I could place them 1m (3 feet) from the wall, on stands, angled towards my bed.

Yeah, in nearfield, I have on stands on either side of my desk, angled to center. I am not a big fan of speakers on a desk surface, even if small.

 

[ZolaIII]

Well they have peak around 700 Hz which is resonance and can't really be corrected entirely and a bit bright (not in a good way), other than that they are fine but not ment for near field or desktop anyway.

ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased by a member new and sent to me for testing. It costs US $245 from Amazon including free shipping. The Debut 2.0 has a decent look: It comes with an external grill that I did not...

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As DBR62 now sell for introduction price of DB 6.2 and are considerably better you should have gone with them for the room and look for something like Kali LP 6 V2 near field powered monitor's for the desk.

 

[sound67]

Well they have peak around 700 Hz which is resonance and can't really be correct entirely and a bit bright (not in a good way), other than that they are fine but not ment for near field or desktop anyway.

ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased by a member new and sent to me for testing. It costs US $245 from Amazon including free shipping. The Debut 2.0 has a decent look: It comes with an external grill that I did not...

www.audiosciencereview.com

As DBR62 now sell for introduction price of DB 6.2 and are considerably better you should have gone with them for the room and look for something like Kali LP 6 V2 near field powered monitor's for the desk.

I used the Kali LP 6 2nd Wave for a while as nearfield active monitors, but finally decided to have my ADAM A5's repaired (they cost twice as much in 2006 money, and I used those for a professional studio production that finally made it to CD in 2021). And the ADAM's really have more tonal substance compared to the KALI's. Thing is, I'm undecided whether in nearfield active monitors are the better solution or an amp +passive speaker setup is the way to go.

 

[ZolaIII]

Well near field monitor's have a narrower radiation pattern than usual speakers. You probably can regulate this to reasonable amount with full spectrum bandwidth control.
There whose (stil is) option of pasive studio monitors but today they are rare and expensive.

 

[Steven Holt]

Quote of the day, right there, folks!

Thanks, bro. And by the way, saw your pic. You have some lovely gear!

 

[sound67]

The ELACs have arrived and are now breaking in. One question was whether my two small amps (Loxjie A30, Aiyima T9 Pro) can handle a 6 Ohm 86db sensitivity speaker (against my old 8 Ohm 97db Klipschs).

 

[sound67]

And of course, it gets me thinking immediately whether testing these against the ELAC Debut Reference DBR62 or the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB 5.2 would make sense. That would be the absolute maximum I could afford.

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