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Effect of Cannabis use on hearing

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My doctor told me to splash water in my ears as I shower. Seems to work.
 

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I work in a mental health jail with plenty of folks with substance induced psychosis. I do not think that cannabis has been demonstrated to cause schizophrenia. Clearly it can make it worse if a person already has it, or it can trigger psychotic episodes, but I imagine once people stop using it, the symptoms go away which would imply they do not have schizophrenia. Still, lots more research needed in this area. My mind is still open and if there is a causative link established, I will certainly be the first to admit it exists.
There seems to be a ton of evidence that links the use of cannabis to psychosis, although the neurobiology is not understood.
It is however clear that people who smoke weed regularly are three to five times more often a victim of psychosis than people who do not use cannabis…
 

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Weed make ears work good, agree or disagree?
To be pedantic and science-y about it, I would say weed makes brain work good. (Or bad, if you're unlucky.) But the brain is where the THC goes and stays. The data delivered by the ears remains unchanged. Does THC enable closer focus and better interpretation? For me, certainly. But I know lots of video people who get the same enhancement to their visual acuity. And @JayGilb just mentioned software writers. Anecdotally it seems to me THC's effect is almost trainable.
 

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There seems to be a ton of evidence that links the use of cannabis to psychosis, although the neurobiology is not understood.
It is however clear that people who smoke weed regularly are three to five times more often a victim of psychosis than people who do not use cannabis…
Although I am a user myself, I acknowledge that I've at least seen headlines of news articles about studies that seem to suggest they have evidence that this is true. :)

However, in this thread I get to be "that guy" and point out that the baseline incidence of psychosis is around 0.046% per year in the over-30 age group. (46/100K). This implies a ~0.15% chance if you use cannabis and the studies in question are finding actual causative vs. correlative effects, which is always a question. So if your annual psychosis risk is consistent and equally present every year, you're looking at maybe a 7% lifetime risk if you smoke for 50 years vs. 2.3% if you don't. That's kinda high, but call me in 30 years I guess.
GPs here recommend olive oil:


Actually a "how do you clean your ears" thread would make more sense for ASR than this one :D
 
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There seems to be a ton of evidence that links the use of cannabis to psychosis, although the neurobiology is not understood.
It is however clear that people who smoke weed regularly are three to five times more often a victim of psychosis than people who do not use cannabis…
My wife’s a neurologist and she sees a few cases a year. Mushrooms have been more common and the effects more pronounced. Scary stuff.
 

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Interesting explanation for problems in a socialized healthcare system, care to elaborate? On second thought, let's not.

This thread has gotten far too political.

Weed make ears work good, agree or disagree? :D

Agree
 

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My wife’s a neurologist and she sees a few cases a year. Mushrooms have been more common and the effects more pronounced. Scary stuff.
Serotonin overload = mania.

My---very recent---understanding is that cannabis increases mania, as do both psilocybin and LSD. Reefer Madness might be a real thing after all, but doubtless not to the same degree if use is moderate and not chronic.
 

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There seems to be a ton of evidence that links the use of cannabis to psychosis, although the neurobiology is not understood.
It is however clear that people who smoke weed regularly are three to five times more often a victim of psychosis than people who do not use cannabis…
No, there is at best an accumulating body of correlative evidence, nowhere near the level of evidence required for assigning causation. Plenty of alternative explanations.
 

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No, there is at best an accumulating body of correlative evidence, nowhere near the level of evidence required for assigning causation. Plenty of alternative explanations.
Nobody states cannabis causes psychosis. But it has been proven cannabis can trigger it.
 

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Yeah regular weed probably can have negative health effects (especially when used daily), just like eating MacDonald's (especially when used daily), sitting on a chair every day, driving everywhere, drinking alcohol (especially when used daily), working too many hours (idem) , having a bad marriage, using twitter too much..... :)

For some reason middle-aged people who never exercise suddenly turn into health freaks when weed is mentioned ;)
 

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Capitalism.
What alternative do we have? The Socialist movement in the UK has been taken over by virtue signalling incompetents. Do you really think the vast majority will vote for a Party run by people who view them with contempt? As a person I like Jeremy Corbyn couldn’t vote for him, the work shy Momentum mob who supported him made it impossible. The Labour Party is doing well at the moment. Yet everyone I ask has no idea what they stand for and what policies they will adopt when or if they form a Government. Lived for over 25 years in a socialist paradise. Spent quite a lot of time going around looking for food, usually with no success. Homes taken without compensation and given to the masses? Yet the masses who benefited always had connections to the regime. My previous domicile was in a one party state with socialist pretensions. To get your kids into school you had to buy the school uniform from the ruling parties shop at exorbitant prices. One village refused to obey and the army was sent in 34 dead. By the way the President had been a member of the Fabian Society. Will quote you the reply of a former member who became President of Tanzania. On a trip to London his former comrades asked him what Tanzania’s economy had tanked, his reply was “I was only doing what you taught me!”
He replaced Capitalists with his Socialist brothers and sisters.
 

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Nobody states cannabis causes psychosis. But it has been proven cannabis can trigger it.
Absolutely, I actually stated as much in my very first post when I mentioned working with many people who have substance induced psychosis. What remains unclear, at least for me is to what extent the illness after the fact follows the expected course. I am actually going to speak to our clinical director about this soon. He has many years in Forensic Psychiatry and should be able to provide some guidance around this question.
 

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Absolutely, I actually stated as much in my very first post when I mentioned working with many people who have substance induced psychosis. What remains unclear, at least for me is to what extent the illness after the fact follows the expected course. I am actually going to speak to our clinical director about this soon. He has many years in Forensic Psychiatry and should be able to provide some guidance around this question.
Very discouraging to read this, given its extraordinary listening effects (for me). I’ve seen both sides of this thesis and deplore the dearth of research. Especially since its use (and potency) is exploding.
 

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Very discouraging to read this, given its extraordinary listening effects (for me). I’ve seen both sides of this thesis and deplore the dearth of research. Especially since its use (and potency) is exploding.
Moving forward the research gap will most certainly close. I often have to participate in health education with the guys prior to discharge about the potential for issues due to the extremely high potency of the legal cannabis available today. Many people still think of cannabis as benign and without serious risk. We do need to be cautious though as there are more questions than answers as far as I can tell, but to be clear, I am not an expert by any means.

Regardless, the genie is out of the bottle as they say so all we can do is move forward and best learn how to live with another potent drug being used commonly. I personally find alcohol of much greater concern.
 

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I personally find alcohol of much greater concern.
Hard agree.

But, as I said, that something is less bad than what you are already doing isn’t a reason to add it.
 

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My wife’s a neurologist and she sees a few cases a year. Mushrooms have been more common and the effects more pronounced. Scary stuff.
I find trips to Walmart scarier than my hundreds of mushroom induced ones... even those 'shroom induced excursions while snorkeling with barracuda or getting dropped onto Muir glacier by myself for weeks, 40 years ago, (it has receded 5 miles since then). The barracuda is more predictable than the skinhead who is open carrying a Glock in front of me in the check out line of the grocery store and far more scary than if he had a joint behind his ear instead. I'm staring down the barrel of 70 years old and still smoking, tripping and listening to music in my futile attempt to seize fleeting moments.
 

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Employers must take out Public Liability and Employers liability insurance in case they are found to have worked in a way that has caused loss or damage to others. Why is personal responsibility less important?
It’s civil law and in particular tort that drives the need for insurance. Companies obtain insurance because case law supports them being sued for failing to fulfill a duty of care. That’s a slightly different situation to an individual having to pay for services that they need because they don’t take care of themselves. I’m not sure we would want to go there, as what makes intuitive sense in an easy case can be nonsensical in less straightforward cases. For example, how would you establish that the person willingly harmed themselves, and appreciated the issues? Would this imply that the policy only applied to adults, if so what about people who acquired bad habits in childhood that harmed them as an adult? Who has to decide, and how will you fund the administrative infrastructure to adjudicate all of this across literally thousands of disaggregated health organisations? My point is that what ever the moral issues are the total cost of your proposed cure would likely dwarf that of the disease :)
 

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It’s civil law and in particular tort that drives the need for insurance. Companies obtain insurance because case law supports them being sued for failing to fulfill a duty of care. That’s a slightly different situation to an individual having to pay for services that they need because they don’t take care of themselves. I’m not sure we would want to go there, as what makes intuitive sense in an easy case can be nonsensical in less straightforward cases. For example, how would you establish that the person willingly harmed themselves, and appreciated the issues? Would this imply that the policy only applied to adults, if so what about people who acquired bad habits in childhood that harmed them as an adult? Who has to decide, and how will you fund the administrative infrastructure to adjudicate all of this across literally thousands of disaggregated health organisations? My point is that what ever the moral issues are the total cost of your proposed cure would likely dwarf that of the disease :)
It’s a problem trying to police any social or anti social behaviour. When does regulation become overbearing and infringes human rights. Whenever social legislation is put in place it immediately becomes a source of interpretation. So with Cannabis if you legislate to allow people to use it for personal use only an industry builds up to supply. If you look at places in the US where Cannabis is openly grown and sold without Federal Government approval, things quickly become big business at individual State level. If the Biden administration can get Federal abortion laws into place? What’s to stop it being overridden at State level? The point I’m trying to make is in both cases social legislation is usually ignored or is subject to mission creep. If you look at the 1972 Supreme Court decision ‘Roe v Wade’ it isn’t anywhere near what pro abortion activists would have you believe.
 
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