Effect of Cannabis use on hearing

[egellings]

You can still vaporize or even cook with it though, and well, people already trade their health for things much less exciting than a bit of high

Eating it would remove the ill health effects of smoking it. Problem is, the buzz takes an hour to arrive after consumption, and it lasts too long. I do not know if canabis causes a rise in blood pressure due to to vascular constriction, but if it does, that would be an added hazard.

 

[Oddball]

You can still vaporize or even cook with it though, and well, people already trade their health for things much less exciting than a bit of high

Just noting the effect. Things that you love are more likely to harm you than the others. Not advising on trade off or benefits. That is for free people to decide.

 

[drewdawg999]

Not to forget that weed destroys your lung and in that respect is a poor decision. Not sure about other ways to consume it, but there must be a better way than trading a bit of high for your health.

There are edibles in the form of gummy bears, brownies, cookies, etc. The effect is a bit different though, and you should be precise in dosing.

But smoking weed is not nearly as damaging as cigarettes I find. You just don't smoke nearly as much. Keep hits small and you barely need to cough. Pounding huge bong hits would be a different story though. It helps to do a little yoga, and playing the harmonica helps as well.

 

[drewdawg999]

You can still vaporize or even cook with it though, and well, people already trade their health for things much less exciting than a bit of high

Cooking with it can get rather elaborate, as witnessed on the show Bong Appetit on Vice. You can cook it in butter or oil, and make pretty much anything with it.

 

[Soandso]

But smoking weed is not nearly as damaging as cigarettes I find.

Cannabis smoking usually involves deeper inhalation, longer deliberate smoke retention and when rolled in paper unfiltered the joint stubs are "roaches" enriched with hot tars. Weed (cannabis) also causes the blood to load up with CO which limits the oxygen carrying capacity even more than tobacco does [venous carboxyhemoglobin cited below is predicative of arterial carboxyhemoglobin levels].

Furthermore compared to tobacco weed provokes similar lung tissue side effects [histopathological alterations cited way below]. For what it matters I used to regularly recreationally smoke pot and hashish throughout the late 1960s as well as lots of unfiltered tobacco daily. After abstaining for decades a medical doctor told me he could tell that from my lung x-rays. I guess might as well add that I can confirm my recollection is that music recordings and concerts were usually enrapturing when "stoned".

 

[thedaveabides]

Not to forget that weed destroys your lung and in that respect is a poor decision. Not sure about other ways to consume it, but there must be a better way than trading a bit of high for your health.

Well said warning - it turns out my lungs weren't designed to suck in the hot smoke from anything at all burning. Unfortunately (I say unfortunately because I generally enjoyed the experience otherwise), this was what caused me to stop. After decades of smoking - and later vaporizing even what I knew for sure to be very clean concentrates - I can only assume my lungs had suffered serious damage; almost every hit was just shy of excruciating for my chest and I often would cough so long and so hard that I'd damned near fall out of my chair from oxygen dep induced dizziness. A few isolated times I even passed out for a few moments after not being able to stop coughing and breath for so long.

I'm still an advocate for cannabis use but I also advocate for knowing one's self and listening to your body and mind. If your body & brain say, "All systems go!", I say, "More power to ya! Blaze away." And, of course, if your system appears to reject it by reacting poorly, it's probably time to stop smoking and find alternatives ways to use or just stop altogether. I'm glad for those who get to enjoy it without ill affect and admit a little jealousy Man, do I miss that taste AND how I grooved on music while baked.

 

[LevityProject]

Cannabis is apparently being studied for its use in treating tinnitus ... Nothing conclusive yet though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7719758/

 

[Soandso]

Cannabis is apparently being studied for its use in treating tinnitus ... Nothing conclusive yet though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7719758/

My 1st reading of citation shows it speaks of what are named cannabinoid receptors yet specifically cites research that cannabis (a source of cannabinoids) is more pro-tinnitus. The authors segue into discussing CBD and how some of it's perceived benefit is not from working through the cannabinoid receptor pathways they originally discussed. Below are 2 screenshots from cited article.

 

[LevityProject]

They explore that in more depth and discuss inflammation in particular as an area of interest, as some ECs may reduce inflammation according to their research. Too much chemistry for me to fully understand though ...

I think It's good these things are finally being studied so that we can have a better understanding of it and it's derivatives.

 

[Soandso]

They explore that in more depth and discuss inflammation in particular as an area of interest, as some ECs may reduce inflammation according to their research.

For "EC" (endo-cannabinoid) less technical jargon orientation here's synoptic screen shots of what 2 Univ. S. Carolina 'inflammation" (immunological) researchers (credentialed below) wrote last year.

 

[egellings]

You have been around others who were under the influence who were 'Beethoven'. Many people who are extrodinarly high functioning use it all the time and many extremely talented folks.
You just don't know it.
I don't smoke it/partake in it all anymore and have no interest but it must be said that you two have no idea what you are talking about. You watched 'Dazed and Confused' to many times.
For many folks weed has the effect of increasing performance, especially with the contemporary delivery methods (that are 'clean' or free of smoke toxins)and the tailored varietals.

What is really strange is going beyond weed, how popular micro dosing has become amount groups of highly functional people. It would blow your mind to find out what folks are up to for good or bad (shrug).

In terms of hearing, music (along with quite a few things) was definitely more enjoyable and my hearing was more acute (and perhaps enhanced in odd ways as well)
Alcohol always dulled my hearing and I hate that and more about it. That is a waste from my vantage point. So glad I am not a drinker.

Anyway not advocating weed per say.

"Per se".

 

[ahofer]

Cannabis is apparently being studied for its use in treating tinnitus ... Nothing conclusive yet though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7719758/

I only really notice my incipient tinnitus under the influence. hmm.

 

[Rottmannash]

I only really notice my incipient tinnitus under the influence. hmm.

Had a gummie a couple weeks ago and noticed my tinnitus was much louder than usual-I was surpised as I thought it would lower it.

 

[egellings]

So a spliff turns stereo into mono? Why not give it up and sell one speaker?

It's not about smoking anything. It's about the eyes telling me that the sound is coming from two spaced-apart boxes, and there is no center source of sound. With eyes closed, that message is gone and the ears give a message of a center filed sound stage, despite the lack of a centered sound source or speaker.

 

[egellings]

So a spliff turns stereo into mono? Why not give it up and sell one speaker?

Ya, mon.

 

[Rob_Gordon]

I'm happy this thread exists, though there's a bunch of prejudices (and some disinformation) as it is to be expected with this topic ("drugs"). Not many things bring up so many fantasies/dreams/clichés... It's both VERY repulsive (to some) and VERY attractive (to others), it's associated with celebrities, drama, accidents, as well as health issues... Things that make people take a stance in spite of not having spent time researching it.

I would love to go into details but this is not something I do "in public", as I always expect sterile nay hostile debates... But there's one question I think I can ask here without taking a huge risk lol, and it's a rather "philosophical" one in that it echoes the classic dilemma "is a sad truth worth more than a joyful lie?".

I have given up decades ago the idea of an absolute value for works of art. I know all too well the many theoretical issues entailed by it. No one can pretend having access to "The Real" film/song/novel... Context of reception (cultural, social, psychological) is an insurmountable bias... So, in my eyes, all things being equal, any means to enhance the experience of the work of art should be gladly welcomed.

The concept of "lucidity" and the idea that the "common perception" is a "truer" one are not very convincing. This forum knows this better than any other audio forum – psychoacoustics shows how complex and unstable our hearing is...

Thinking that someone high is not listening to "the real song" is like saying someone who adds salt to a tomato isn't tasting the real tomato... when there's already olive oil and vinegar in the bowl/or when their mouth is filled with cheese!

(yes, I consume weed, and I have had some my most life changing/beautiful experiences with music and literature high... so I'm never gonna look down on it...)

 

[whereisbrian]

Now, I don't use cannabis with music but i know it's a good cure for pains.
i used cannabis and weed during a very long time, it was fun, but i stopped smoking: this made me mad.

i've read an old study in New Zealand about 40 000 teenagers: 10% of them have developed psychological problems and
mental health desease.

The only good thing of legalization is to stop traffic and criminality.
But in France it's forbiden (1 million smokers)

 

[Tell]

i've read an old study in New Zealand about 40 000 teenagers: 10% of them have developed psychological problems and
mental health desease.

Yeah teenagers shouldn't use cannabis, their brain ain't ready yet for it. Thing is though that we tend to have laws preventing teenagers to drink alcohol under a certain age, but seeing that weed is equally illegal for both kids and grownups in so many places it instead makes it easier for them to get it since dealers tend to not ask for ID checking for your age.

 

[DonDish]

I think music and all other things for that matter, should be enjoyed in a sober fashion. To eat when youre hungry, relax when youre stressed out or be active when you are bored, and so on. So what music does for you when you need it, you should do it. This is about taking signals from your mind and body seriously, and any drug will only disrupt this.
That said any drug can be a music, or moreover an experience enhancer, but that experience is useless in the real world. A fading memory of liting up to a certain tune or genre.
Absolute reality is always 100% persistent, and its the best reference for all things. So to mess up your relation to reality with drugs. Its a slippery slope with thin ice at the bottom.

I can say these things with certainity, because I fought my way out of most addictions. Heroin, amphetamine, cocaine and hasjish. Ive done enough drugs to kill all members of ASR many times over. My friends died from OD´s or disappeared into mental illnesses, suicides and accidents.

One can be coy about this, like it happened(addiction) to him, not me. That can be mostly true, but when you awaken the true beast that drug abuse really is. You most certainely is in for a life long struggle, and if you make it out. You will never be the same again.

Ive seen this thread pop up from time to time, and always wanted to write something, but never did til now. Reading down it touc.hes my innermost. This is how it all begun for me. Smoking pipes of hasjisj to the tune of Doors, Pink Floyd and Bob Marley. Playing speed chess with my friends. The cresendo of that was me shooting up with heroin eight times a day for many years. I dont have rich parents so Id have to carve that right out of the asphalt. Not for the timid.

So my advice to anybody is this: Stay away from drugs, you dont need it. You never will..

 

[Tell]

I think music and all other things for that matter, should be enjoyed in a sober fashion. To eat when youre hungry, relax when youre stressed out or be active when you are bored, and so on. So what music does for you when you need it, you should do it. This is about taking signals from your mind and body seriously, and any drug will only disrupt this.
That said any drug can be a music, or moreover an experience enhancer, but that experience is useless in the real world. A fading memory of liting up to a certain tune or genre.
Absolute reality is always 100% persistent, and its the best reference for all things. So to mess up your relation to reality with drugs. Its a slippery slope with thin ice at the bottom.

I can say these things with certainity, because I fought my way out of most addictions. Heroin, amphetamine, cocaine and hasjish. Ive done enough drugs to kill all members of ASR many times over. My friends died from OD´s or disappeared into mental illnesses, suicides and accidents.

One can be coy about this, like it happened(addiction) to him, not me. That can be mostly true, but when you awaken the true beast that drug abuse really is. You most certainely is in for a life long struggle, and if you make it out. You will never be the same again.

Ive seen this thread pop up from time to time, and always wanted to write something, but never did til now. Reading down it touc.hes my innermost. This is how it all begun for me. Smoking pipes of hasjisj to the tune of Doors, Pink Floyd and Bob Marley. Playing speed chess with my friends. The cresendo of that was me shooting up with heroin eight times a day for many years. I dont have rich parents so Id have to carve that right out of the asphalt. Not for the timid.

So my advice to anybody is this: Stay away from drugs, you dont need it. You never will..

Glad to hear that your doing okay after all that pain!

Though I don't know you but I'm almost 100% sure that the drugs wasn't your problem, instead it was a symptom. A symptom of a trauma maybe even from your childhood, maybe an absent father or an angry mother. Again I don't know you so I can't say anything definitely, but never the less I am glad that you're doing better!

But yeah, drugs are rarely a problem for a mentally healthy person, instead it can be a great tool for for example using alcohol for having it a bit easier to talk to strangers at parties, drinking coffee for getting energy to do work or smoking a joint to relax after a stressful day and enjoy some nice music
So again, drugs are great tools if used correctly, but it can also destroy lives if use incorrectly.

Having that said I will never ever try heroin, but I still think no drug should be illegal since that in itself is hurting more than it helps.
And also because I want to be able to take a pill of elvanse and a decent space cake at a party without being a criminal, because _very _much prefer that high over alcohol. I get lots of energy, I'm social, I'm fun, I'm in control and trip over everything, I don't have to constantly pee, I don't do/say stupid things and boy it's nice to dance!