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Edifier MR4 vs Logitech Z625

IlGaber

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Good morning, I'm a new member! Thanks in advance for anyone willing to spend a little of his time to help me. I have been using the Logitech z625 kit (2 speakers+subwoofer) for many years, but recently I came across the Edifier products advised by a friend. My question is: would it be worth to switch from a 2 speakers and a sub set to a 2 speakers only? Will I feel the lack of the subwoofer too much? To give you context, I'd use it plugged to a PC, sitting at a desk, primarly to watch movies/videos, listening to music, BUT I plan also on using it to record my guitar and use digital amplifiers modelers.
Any type of advise and insight would be helpful. Have a nice day!
GP
 
Welcome @asr.

Looking at the sizes of both systems I think you will feel the lack of the sub. Logitech gives no specs regarding frequency response, and those by Edifier are useless, but physics still rules.
 
Welcome @asr.

Looking at the sizes of both systems I think you will feel the lack of the sub. Logitech gives no specs regarding frequency response, and those by Edifier are useless, but physics still rules.
So to have a real upgrade I should also buy a subwoofer for the Edifier mr4...maybe a Edifier T5?
 
I own the 623s, and they're practically the same thing. They sound incredibly good for what they are.
The bass is truly explosive, and once you've gotten used to that full response, it's very difficult to go back to an almost nonexistent response below 60Hz.
Some may be blasphemous, but I prefer listening to music with the 623s to any monitor with a 3- or 4-inch woofer.
For movies or video games, let alone anything.
 
You trade for nonexistent response between 100Hz and 200Hz tho.

Logitech z623 from noaudiophile
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You're going to be missing an octave either way and I can guarantee losing the <60Hz while keeping the rest is way better than having a hole in the middle. Not to mention the easier installation of 2.0 over 2.1, noise problem from unlucky batches of z623/z625, and MR4 actually having a tweeter with inductors for crossover.

Personally, I will take MR4 without debate. But I can understand the need for bass quantity in some situations.

I see that you already have z625. Just skip the MR4 and go for proper 5-inch or 4-inchers.
 
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You trade for nonexistent response between 100Hz and 200Hz tho.

Logitech z623 from noaudiophile
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You're going to be missing an octave either way and I can guarantee losing the <60Hz while keeping the rest is way better than having a hole in the middle. Not to mention the easier installation of 2.0 over 2.1, noise problem from unlucky batches of z623/z625, and MR4 actually having a tweeter with inductors for crossover.

Personally, I will take MR4 without debate. But I can understand the need for bass quantity in some situations.

I see that you already have z625. Just skip the MR4 and go for proper 5-inch or 4-inchers.
As I anticipated, "for some, this will be heresy."
There's no guarantee when it comes to personal preference; I hate the hollow sound of small woofers. I prefer an imperfect response but with presence at least up to 40Hz.
 
You trade for nonexistent response between 100Hz and 200Hz tho.

Logitech z623 from noaudiophile
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You're going to be missing an octave either way and I can guarantee losing the <60Hz while keeping the rest is way better than having a hole in the middle. Not to mention the easier installation of 2.0 over 2.1, noise problem from unlucky batches of z623/z625, and MR4 actually having a tweeter with inductors for crossover.

Personally, I will take MR4 without debate. But I can understand the need for bass quantity in some situations.

I see that you already have z625. Just skip the MR4 and go for proper 5-inch or 4-inchers.
Would you reccomend some 4-5 inches speakers? Not super expensive if possible
 
Then you've come to the right website

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I'm using the "without-sub" scores in this case so that bass affects the score, which is a decision factor in 2.0 setups.

Left to right is price in increasing order, down to up is score in increasing order. Frankly speaking I can use any speaker of a score above 3-4 and I might have problem telling them apart once I EQ them all to the same room target. Even scores like 2+ might be acceptable to some, considering the Klipsch R-41M and PMC twenty.21 sitting there. Exactly 2 would be "Tolerable, but you know it's flawed, both sonically and from the base electrical design", a position well-demonstrated by Edifier R1280 and further elaborated by the JBL One 104, Dayton B652-Air and Tannoy XT 6 which are definitely pushing the limit of tolerance. R1280 is a good benchmark also because it seems to be everywhere internationally.

The exact position of the points may not be useful, since these are old price numbers and for example if you're not living in the US you may find Micca speakers difficult to get and more expensive compared to, say, Polk speakers.

So what I do is I find the speakers that are financially logical to buy in my area, get a rough idea of their relative performance from the chart and see the other details that decide the purchase.

FWIW I'm using Elac Debut 6.2 for my living room. If you absolutely need the bass from that in a bedroom (6.5-inch woofer x 2 is bigger area than the 7-inch of z623) you can, but 6.5" speakers need very careful positioning for close distances which is why I recommend 4-5" for desktop use instead. And there's no shortage of 5-inchers at that score either, JBL Stage 130, JBL 305P, Audioengine A5+... some familiar names that were already recommended before these measurements existed. If your budget allows for KEF, why not.

But if your budget is lower than e.g. JBL 305 (I know they're cheap in USA but can be expensive outside), the heap around score 3-4 ain't too bad either and may have cheaper prices in your country. Wharfedale is like the only practical brand in Taiwan apart from their home grown Usher. Polk, Q Acoustics, PSB, Boston, Paradigm, Behringer, all decent speakers in their own right if you can get a good price on them. And in Asia (plus maybe some other parts of the world), Edifier and Swans are even cheaper than those mentioned so far; rarely see these two in western market because their much higher prices there kills their price/performance ratio.
 
Then you've come to the right website

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I'm using the "without-sub" scores in this case so that bass affects the score, which is a decision factor in 2.0 setups.

Left to right is price in increasing order, down to up is score in increasing order. Frankly speaking I can use any speaker of a score above 3-4 and I might have problem telling them apart once I EQ them all to the same room target. Even scores like 2+ might be acceptable to some, considering the Klipsch R-41M and PMC twenty.21 sitting there. Exactly 2 would be "Tolerable, but you know it's flawed, both sonically and from the base electrical design", a position well-demonstrated by Edifier R1280 and further elaborated by the JBL One 104, Dayton B652-Air and Tannoy XT 6 which are definitely pushing the limit of tolerance. R1280 is a good benchmark also because it seems to be everywhere internationally.

The exact position of the points may not be useful, since these are old price numbers and for example if you're not living in the US you may find Micca speakers difficult to get and more expensive compared to, say, Polk speakers.

So what I do is I find the speakers that are financially logical to buy in my area, get a rough idea of their relative performance from the chart and see the other details that decide the purchase.

FWIW I'm using Elac Debut 6.2 for my living room. If you absolutely need the bass from that in a bedroom (6.5-inch woofer x 2 is bigger area than the 7-inch of z623) you can, but 6.5" speakers need very careful positioning for close distances which is why I recommend 4-5" for desktop use instead. And there's no shortage of 5-inchers at that score either, JBL Stage 130, JBL 305P, Audioengine A5+... somthank you so so muche familiar names that were already recommended before these measurements existed. If your budget allows for KEF, why not.

But if your budget is lower than e.g. JBL 305 (I know they're cheap in USA but can be expensive outside), the heap around score 3-4 ain't too bad either and may have cheaper prices in your country. Wharfedale is like the only practical brand in Taiwan apart from their home grown Usher. Polk, Q Acoustics, PSB, Boston, Paradigm, Behringer, all decent speakers in their own right if you can get a good price on them. And in Asia (plus maybe some other parts of the world), Edifier and Swans are even cheaper than those mentioned so far; rarely see these two in western market because their much higher prices there kills their price/performance ratio.
Thank you so so much!!
 
I have the MR4's on my desk. I don't listen loudly and I don't find the bass hollow or boxy or anemic at all. The rear of the cabinets are about a foot from the wall. I run them in "green" mode (music), flat in Windows, with a slight bass boost from my preamp/headphone amp to compensate for the boosted highs that they already have. It sounds nice, if you are looking for that "loudness switch engaged" lower volume listening style.
 
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