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Dutch reviewer Hans Beekhuyzen stated that an DIY Hypex based nc400 amp can't sound better than an much more expensive Class D amp
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Sure, as I said, I doubt at those levels of performance the small differences in measured performance are audible. Archimago promotes the concept of "good enough". Once you have that, you don't need to spend more, unless you are interested in features that aren't SQ related.
I stand on this:
Not sure what to make of that.. but everybody their own I guess
Nobody noticed that he thinks the CI Audio C-100S sounds better than a NC400. As far as I could tell it's a UcD based product, so should have a generational disadvantage from the get go. They however claim to only use the UcD modulator and do the rest of the design themselves... I somehow doubt that it will objectively measure better than a DIY NC400.
The absolute worst things is that he just poses some statements, makes some claims, let's some questions float, without ever needing to back up anything.. and then get's away with it.. it's almost like politics
Vasr
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The brick and mortars are all going away but in the US until about a decade ago, there used to be an audio store in every city run like car dealerships with equally sleazy sales staff. None of the equipment had prices on them or they had full retail price that no one would pay. You were supposed to strike a deal or you got taken.
Like car dealerships, when naive people came in to buy a "stereo system", this was a typical salesman question so he could put together a whole system for just above that price which would be sold at half that price if you were savvy.
I spent my graduate school years buying equipment from a store like this but with a friendly salesperson that would look up the dealer cost and tell us the minimum markup the manager would accept and we would bid slightly above that and he would take it to the manager to get approval. Eventually, the manager wised up and the poor sales guy got fired.
This is still the norm in a few developing countries.
These subjectivists reviews are often good for the feature description. Ideally long term they do away with their sound quality comments and just stick to that. On that front they do things I can't and won't do. For that reason I tend to watch them from time to time.
yellowshark
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Two Russian oligarchs meet in the streets of Moskow and they notice that they're both wearing the same tie. "Hey, where did you get yours and how much did you pay?" one of them asks. "Um, I paid 500 US$ and I bought in it that shop over there". "You stupid fool! I bought mine in the shop around the corner and I paid 1000 US$"
What people don’t realise, that engineers and marketers know, is that you can put things in shiny boxes and sell them for 5-10 times as much.
So what do you do-
Well you can sell the things for people to put into boring boxes for their own use.
And you can sell your thing to manufacturers that build the shiny boxes.
Or you can start your own separated company and build your own shiny box.
Why does it surprise you that Hans says- if it cost more than it must be better?
So what do you do-
Well you can sell the things for people to put into boring boxes for their own use.
And you can sell your thing to manufacturers that build the shiny boxes.
Or you can start your own separated company and build your own shiny box.
Why does it surprise you that Hans says- if it cost more than it must be better?
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Oh, he believes himself above all. The M33 isn't exactly cheap too. But that's besides the point. He is openly against even the idea of blind testing. That and his aversion of measurements should tell you all you need to know about the man. If Hans doesn't know what AND the price of what he's listening to, he likely has nothing to say.
Like almost all youtube reviewers, he is a fraud. He has an oscilloscope in the background for the aesthetic show of force in his videos, but yet, he openly admits that the oscilloscope is absolutely useless to measure anything in any of his review.
It feel like people who has a AP or an Klippel NFS, is like having a huge dong hidden in their pants, ready for showtime, anytime.
solderdude
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IMO Hans knows a bit about electronics but is a but leaning towards the subjective side and believes what he is saying is the truth.
It should be noted that an oscilloscope is a useful tool when repairing, modifying and even when measuring audio gear.
For determining distortion in the smaller numbers they might not be (at least the low resolution ones) useful.
An engineer wants it on their desk.
What makes me smile is the Nakamichi T-100 below the scope. Fine for cassette decks but that's it. Any decent sound card is much more useful these days.
It should be noted that an oscilloscope is a useful tool when repairing, modifying and even when measuring audio gear.
For determining distortion in the smaller numbers they might not be (at least the low resolution ones) useful.
An engineer wants it on their desk.
What makes me smile is the Nakamichi T-100 below the scope. Fine for cassette decks but that's it. Any decent sound card is much more useful these days.
Because it’s a duty of care to cut the bs for newbs
Indeed, cutting through the BS and Audio Woo is essential. One of the most useful, if not the most useful service Amir and the rest of the contributors at ASR provide is education, not only for newbies, but continuing education in audio for all of us.
restorer-john
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He probably does RTR or cassette deck quick tests and the Nak is great for that. He has an Audio Precision Sys-2522 in that stack...
My guess is he uses the cassette deck as much as the AP
Bashing Hans doesn’t have an expiry dateDo you guys happen to look at post date before replying?
And it's fun for all the family.
Seriously though he can't be bashed enough. I'm fed up with people coming to me and saying 'But Hans says...'
It takes ages to explain to them why it's bollocks. People spend serous money based on his nonsense and they might as well have gone out into the street and stuffed it down the drain.
Seriously though he can't be bashed enough. I'm fed up with people coming to me and saying 'But Hans says...'
It takes ages to explain to them why it's bollocks. People spend serous money based on his nonsense and they might as well have gone out into the street and stuffed it down the drain.