Pearljam5000
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I like Focal's Beryllium tweeter, i wonder if the Grimm's tweeter is similar.
I like Focal's Beryllium tweeter, i wonder if the Grimm's tweeter is similar.
I'm very curious what the measurements show about this tweeter. When I read of drivers with exotic materials, my audio skepticism tends to kick in, and I'm speaking as a former owner of loudspeakers with exotic tweeters.I think it's a SEAS tweeter. When I changed tweeters -- I upgraded -- it definitely made a difference. Less artifacts and more natural.
I'm very curious what the measurements show about this tweeter. When I read of drivers with exotic materials, my audio skepticism tends to kick in, and I'm speaking as a former owner of loudspeakers with exotic tweeters.
I was also skeptical but it does make a difference, it sounds pretty much like nothing else (some hate it) and when I heard the Grimm's tweeter in the video (obviously not a perfect way to knkw how it sounds) it had that special openness that Focal's tweeter has.I'm very curious what the measurements show about this tweeter. When I read of drivers with exotic materials, my audio skepticism tends to kick in, and I'm speaking as a former owner of loudspeakers with exotic tweeters.
I dont.
Ok, I opened the video at 6:20, and a Frenchman who is probably too well-dressed to be from the engineering department was talking about how the inverted dome tweeter is a signature of the Focal brand. That's a marketing video presented by an audiophile website as informational.Lol it's not marketing, it's scientific facts about the material, but OK.
This is one of those old (and wrong) audiophile chestnuts that just won't die.EVERYTHING makes a difference.
You didn't wait for the part where he says it's hard as a diamondOk, I opened the video at 6:20, and a Frenchman who is probably too well-dressed to be from the engineering department was talking about how the inverted dome tweeter is a signature of the Focal brand. That's a marketing video presented by an audiophile website as informational.
This is one of those old (and wrong) audiophile chestnuts that just won't die.
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I'm sure there have been well-engineered speakers that use beryllium drivers. Yamaha released in the NS-1000s in the '70s! But now it is being presented as a new and game-changing material.
I have traversed these roads before.
I don't know how we got onto Focal speakers in a thread about the D&D 8Cs.
The Grimms are interesting, and sadly, I have not had occasion to hear them. I have assumed, perhaps wrongly, that they represented an earlier--and perhaps more audiophile-friendly approach--to providing what the 8Cs, Kii Threes and GGNTKT speakers offer.
Maybe it allows them to charge even more uber prices . Doesn’t necessarily matter if it really improves sound quality. What matters is that the customer thinks it does.You didn't wait for the part where he says it's hard as a diamond
But OK
I still don't think any company would use Uber expensive materiels for no reason.
Well the material the dome is made from will influence the frequency at which first breakup occurs, but there are other things influencing the overall response of a tweeter too.I'm very curious what the measurements show about this tweeter. When I read of drivers with exotic materials, my audio skepticism tends to kick in, and I'm speaking as a former owner of loudspeakers with exotic tweeters.
The Grimms are interesting, and sadly, I have not had occasion to hear them. I have assumed, perhaps wrongly, that they represented an earlier--and perhaps more audiophile-friendly approach--to providing what the 8Cs, Kii Threes and GGNTKT speakers offer.
The D & Ds look like the ultimate small room speaker.The Grimms are more from the world of professional audio -- for example Cécile McLorin Salvant's Dreams and Daggers was mixed on them and the Concertgebouw uses them for their recordings (or has). They are room friendly due to the crossing pattern described by Purité Audio, but they assume a decent or treated room like one usually finds in a studio. My room is not treated and not big, but for whatever reason it sounds pretty good. And that's just luck, the crossing pattern doesn't help with bass. The D & D's preference for being against a wall is fantastic for all of us who live in cities and don't have the luxury of cavernous spaces. So when I said that I should compare the two in the same position, actually you can't -- and that is to D & D's credit.
The D & Ds look like the ultimate small room speaker.
The Kiis are excellent. I heard the 8Cs and Kiis side by side in Keith's listening room (I seem to recall that the listening distance was around 3m), and on a lot of program material, the difference between the two models of speaker was imperceptible. I'm accustomed to demos in which different speakers sound different in obvious ways. This was not such a demo.I feel sorry for the Kii Three it used to be the ultimate compact speaker , and now the 8C is stealing all of the attention from it lol
Let's don't sleep on the GGNTKT M1s either.The Kiis are excellent. I heard the 8Cs and Kiis side by side in Keith's listening room (I seem to recall that the listening distance was around 3m), and on a lot of program material, the difference between the two models of speaker was imperceptible by me and my wife. I'm accustomed to demos in which different speakers sound different in obvious ways. This was not such a demo.
The most noticeable difference was the 8Cs' superior bottom-octave performance, although the Kiis' low end was impressive for their size.
With Grimm, Kii, D&D, and now GGNTKT, it feels as though there is some long overdue progress in loudspeaker design.