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Dutch & Dutch 8c Review

Looks all good, I can’t seem to see a link? ‘Hongfeng’?
Keith
 
tw99 said:
I'm using a MiniDSP SHD with my 8Cs, and due to the cable lengths required in my setup, I didn't have any success with passive SPDIF coax to AES conversion. The MiniDSP outputs at 96/24 and the signal would not make it reliably to the speakers. It'd work for a few minutes, then one or other other would drop out. I've used analogue XLR for the last year, but it's always mildly bugged me that there was an unnecessary D-A-D conversion step, even if it's most likely inaudible.

I looked for a long time, in vain, for any affordable and reputable active converter, and didn't find one. So I've eventually rolled the dice on this from AliExpress, because I saw it had a single review that said it worked at 96khz ! £14 wasn't much to risk, and I'm pleased to report that it seems to work fine. The only downside is about a 3dB loss in level compared to the high gain XLR input.
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Sell the SHD and get the SHD Studio which has AES3 110 Ohm out.
 
tw99 said:
It was this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006146006703.html

But there are various other things that look pretty similar too.
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Thank you for this. I have the same problem with my 8C's. D&D support tried to help, going so far as to send me custom cables and terminator, but were not successful. This type of converter was the recommended next step but I couldn't find one for a reasonable price in USA (I already spent all my $ on 8C's ). In my case the issue only manifests playing bitrates higher than 24/48, which is a very easy thing to work around, but it would be nice to have the option again.
 
Talal said:
Almost done. Now to hide the cables.

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Sometimes I get a little bummed that I don't have the funds for high end stuff like this, then I remember that great sound is really more a result of well executed integration of a speaker in a room, and you can get that at almost any price point if you know what you're doing. This one makes me feel a lot better about my setup.
 
Yes absolutely, in a completely treated room ‘most’ speakers can sound pretty good.
Contemporary active designs just make it easier to get really fine sound in largely untreated/domestic rooms.
Keith
 
tifune said:
Thank you for this. I have the same problem with my 8C's. D&D support tried to help, going so far as to send me custom cables and terminator, but were not successful. This type of converter was the recommended next step but I couldn't find one for a reasonable price in USA (I already spent all my $ on 8C's ). In my case the issue only manifests playing bitrates higher than 24/48, which is a very easy thing to work around, but it would be nice to have the option again.
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Have you also tried the Neutrik NADIT BNC-MX? Price is approx. EUR 60. That does need a BNC connection, but coax SPDIF to BNC cables can be ordered at many places.
 
If there are any other D&D owners on here who use Home Assistant, I wrote an HA integration that exposes some of the basic features (standby, mute, volume, input and preset selection, playback controls). https://github.com/trevorwarwick/dutchdutch if you want to try it. It's not meant to replace Ascend, but just to allow simple access to the aspects that you might want to include in automations.
 
tw99 said:
If there are any other D&D owners on here who use Home Assistant, I wrote an HA integration that exposes some of the basic features (standby, mute, volume, input and preset selection, playback controls). https://github.com/trevorwarwick/dutchdutch if you want to try it. It's not meant to replace Ascend, but just to allow simple access to the aspects that you might want to include in automations.
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Amazing, thanks!
 
tw99 said:
If there are any other D&D owners on here who use Home Assistant, I wrote an HA integration that exposes some of the basic features (standby, mute, volume, input and preset selection, playback controls). https://github.com/trevorwarwick/dutchdutch if you want to try it. It's not meant to replace Ascend, but just to allow simple access to the aspects that you might want to include in automations.
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thanks for sharing
 
tw99 said:
If there are any other D&D owners on here who use Home Assistant, I wrote an HA integration that exposes some of the basic features (standby, mute, volume, input and preset selection, playback controls). https://github.com/trevorwarwick/dutchdutch if you want to try it. It's not meant to replace Ascend, but just to allow simple access to the aspects that you might want to include in automations.
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There's an updated version available - fixes a couple of potential timing issues during device discovery while the speakers are booting, and can now also be installed via HACS.
 
FrantzM said:
That is 3-Ways
1st "way": The range of frequencies the subs cover
2nd "way": The range of frequencies the midrange covers
3rd "way": The range of frequencies the tweeter covers

3-ways.

Peace.
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Then what is a 4-way?
 
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