Ha, I didn't plan on retiring, but it's been over three years since I quit. At this point, it seems my career and chances of being a Dutch & Dutch 15C buyer are nonextant!
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Dutch & Dutch 15C Discussion
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You can always get the 8c or 6c and add the bass module later.
What's next on the menu?
If we are mentioning high net worth individuals, I happen to know a few and they all had and have exquisite sound and home theater systems. The most interesting story in that "range" is a person that built up the HT in adjacent building to his house, and has torn it down fully down twice, including the building. Took about 3 years until it was finally done. Cost? Well money is just candy to some people.
I actually don't know any really rich person (let's say 100m+ not to limit to billions) that did not spend ridiculous amounts of money in their stereo and HT systems.
While my experience is mostly from last 10 years in middle east, I do know at least a person or two in Europe that fall in the same category.
Our ultra wealthy customers tend to be much older and in that crowd, spending money on theaters and stereo system is quite low. It is the odd stock option winner that is interested in such. This may be different in say, Silicon Valley where there are a lot more people in that category.
Right - most of the people I referenced are in 40-ties or 50-ties, and it is true that their fathers did not have same affinity despite the family wealth that was always there.
I’m coming back to the discussion a bit late. Prices in the entry‑level segment have gone up quite a bit since the last time I checked, but the overall ballpark hasn’t changed much. With 400 euros, you can get a very decent pair of studio monitors like the Kali Audio LP‑6 2nd Wave for nearfield use, or a less refined system that still performs extremely well once properly set up and EQ’d, such as the LD Systems Dave 8 XS, if what you want is a system better suited for a party speaker in a large room. One might object that you need a monitor controller, but something like a Palmer Monicon costs next to nothing.
From there, you can still buy around 250 pairs of a system that, in my view, can very legitimately be called “high fidelity” for the same budget required for a single pair of D&D 15C. For those who don’t like the car analogy: pick any field you want — I doubt you’ll find many examples where a product costing 250 times the price of the first “perfectly good” item, one that will satisfy roughly 95% of average consumers, doesn’t strike you as ostentatious luxury.
To give a bit of perspective: a professional sound reinforcement system that costs around 100,000 euros would be something like a full L‑Acoustics K1 line array capable of covering a Zénith‑sized venue. We’re talking about a maximum SPL of 149 dB (143 dB at 25 Hz), true full‑range cardioid coverage, full tropicalization, and stunning sonic finesse. In short, a state‑of‑the‑art professional tool for the 1 % most demanding shows.
For me the comparaison with bugatti work quite well because when a Chiron promises to reach Formula 1–level speeds on public roads while still being usable by people who aren’t professional drivers, all wrapped in high‑end daily‑driver comfort, the 15C make a similar promise: delivering “main monitor” studio performance in an acoustically untreated room. That’s not going to happen in most cases, because the geometry, and RT60 of the vast majority of rooms will never allow the speaker/room system to reach anything close to state‑of‑the‑art performance. Yet, it will probably be incredibly enjoyable and it will probably outperform 99 % of the other speakers in a average living room. So it's totally ultra high end for obsessive compulsive really healthy dude, but it's will probably be a good product so... cool for the guys who are able to buy this and want the best sonic experience without arming the look of their big and beautifull living room.
From there, you can still buy around 250 pairs of a system that, in my view, can very legitimately be called “high fidelity” for the same budget required for a single pair of D&D 15C. For those who don’t like the car analogy: pick any field you want — I doubt you’ll find many examples where a product costing 250 times the price of the first “perfectly good” item, one that will satisfy roughly 95% of average consumers, doesn’t strike you as ostentatious luxury.
To give a bit of perspective: a professional sound reinforcement system that costs around 100,000 euros would be something like a full L‑Acoustics K1 line array capable of covering a Zénith‑sized venue. We’re talking about a maximum SPL of 149 dB (143 dB at 25 Hz), true full‑range cardioid coverage, full tropicalization, and stunning sonic finesse. In short, a state‑of‑the‑art professional tool for the 1 % most demanding shows.
For me the comparaison with bugatti work quite well because when a Chiron promises to reach Formula 1–level speeds on public roads while still being usable by people who aren’t professional drivers, all wrapped in high‑end daily‑driver comfort, the 15C make a similar promise: delivering “main monitor” studio performance in an acoustically untreated room. That’s not going to happen in most cases, because the geometry, and RT60 of the vast majority of rooms will never allow the speaker/room system to reach anything close to state‑of‑the‑art performance. Yet, it will probably be incredibly enjoyable and it will probably outperform 99 % of the other speakers in a average living room. So it's totally ultra high end for obsessive compulsive really healthy dude, but it's will probably be a good product so... cool for the guys who are able to buy this and want the best sonic experience without arming the look of their big and beautifull living room.
I have a few high net worth friends and none of them have anything close to the lowest D&D speakers. One has a pretty nice home theater but the speakers are hidden and it isn’t close to being a good two channel room. Plush seating, lots of bass and nice projector but lousy for music.
These guys seem to spend their money on country clubs, golf trips, nice boats, vacation homes, expensive liquor and side girlfriends. They have no idea what they are missing by not having a great two channel system. I feel sorry for them.
These guys seem to spend their money on country clubs, golf trips, nice boats, vacation homes, expensive liquor and side girlfriends. They have no idea what they are missing by not having a great two channel system. I feel sorry for them.
Most of the wealthiest people I have met were in business, CEOs and executives, some business owners. Not once did I think to ask any of them about their audio system, lol.
However, one executive many years ago brought up tvs because we were next to a flat panel and they were still fairly new at the time. He said he had a great tv at home but alas, he was rarely ever there to use it. What you do tend to hear about with the very wealthy is their plane or planes. Somehow those get mentioned even if it is more often by their employees.
However, one executive many years ago brought up tvs because we were next to a flat panel and they were still fairly new at the time. He said he had a great tv at home but alas, he was rarely ever there to use it. What you do tend to hear about with the very wealthy is their plane or planes. Somehow those get mentioned even if it is more often by their employees.
No way that is true. Show me a high-SPL, with response down to 20 Hz that costs 1/250th of 15C. You won't be able to.
Spec for that says "bandwidth of 30 Hz" meaning it won't be flat to 30 Hz let alone lower. Its frequency response, since they are not showing it, is going to be horrible as well.
But sure, PA speakers can get loud. But show me an accurate one and then we can discuss in the context of 15C.
Accurate, full range, and high SPL speakers are going to cost good amount of money. No way your bookshelf desktop speakers can be talked about in the same sentence.
Yep, always hear about private jets, yachts, art, and real estate. I've been in lots of media/AV rooms but never thought they were particularly excellent audio systems. Maybe fancy audio systems are more of a West Coast thing.
To be determined.
Maybe the 15c?
I guess you can't have a 'west coast sound' unless somebody is listening to it?
I like the form factor of the comically large stand mount. It's a nice looking speaker in an odd way and a 15 inch midrange will do amazing things
Does this count? I don't know if it's 1/250th but it's A LOT less though. And that's not even their TOTL right?
I suspect people don't have to be as rich as you think to purchase gear like this. I've met people with hifi systems that are worth more than their house. It's a matter of priorities.
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