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Driver Break-in analysis - YT video

Karmacoma

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I came across this video, it's an evidence-based analysis on the impact of break-in on drivers. I thought it was a really well-made video and the channel, SoundPixelLab, even though in french, deserves attention. (Don't hesitate to tell me if it was already posted)
Description edit: they explain the principle of the break-in, asked the manufacterers on the subject, perform a set of measurements on 5 different drivers, and give their conclusion.
 
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Since I don't speak French (and I don't think I'm alone here), can you please at least let us know if there is anything surprising or just affirming what we already know?
 
Since I don't speak French (and I don't think I'm alone here), can you please at least let us know if there is anything surprising or just affirming what we already know?
Ah, sorry I was expecting you guys to use the subtitle option. You're right, I should've mentioned that.
Nothing surprising, no, but still interesting. And the channel is also very good, the creator has a very methodic/scientific approach. It's just one of the best quality video on the subject I've seen.
 
Ah, sorry I was expecting you guys to use the subtitle option. You're right, I should've mentioned that.
Nothing surprising, no, but still interesting. And the channel is also very good, the creator has a very methodic/scientific approach. It's just one of the best quality video on the subject I've seen.
The subtitles were in French too! I probably missed an option to autotranslate them (I don't watch much foreign-language content on Youtube). Thanks!
 
The subtitles were in French too! I probably missed an option to autotranslate them (I don't watch much foreign-language content on Youtube). Thanks!
yes, there is an option to auto-translate.
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@Karmacoma Thanks for making me aware of this channel. (I just enjoyed the one on speaker cabinet resonances, linked here. Very well presented.)
 
it's an evidence-based analysis on the impact of burn-in on drivers.
First of all, it's called BREAK-IN, it has NEVER been called burn-in. Bulbs/tubes/valves burn-in. Anything mechanical has a break-in period, from vacuum cleaners to automobiles and heavy equipment. It can be from 2 minutes on tweeters to a few hundred hours on heavy equipment. Bulbs, on the other hand, have a pass or fail burn-in period, usually around 24 hours. Electronics usually have an infant mortality rating. The more moving parts they have, the longer that period is. EX: a CD or actual HD vs a cell phone or a memory drive. You can usually get that type of information from the manufacturer of the product.

There are some products that have to be run-in, like brand new tires for a car, brake rotors and pads, or a stylus on a tone arm. In other words, they work better and perform as they were intended once they are "run-in" and begin their normal service life. You see drivers at races driving side to side to warm up the sidewalls, and wear the silicone off the tire face. It is also nice to see if the tread is going to peel off the tire casing, but not at 200mph with weight on it, vs checking the balance at 200mph.

Break-in has several components working together.
Run-in is a single component that has to wear to a certain point to work properly.
Burn-in refers to bulbs and filament/plate failure, or the actual bulb/glass burning through.

(A) Burn-out lives two houses down from me. His name is Pete the puffer.

Regards
 
First of all, it's called BREAK-IN, it has NEVER been called burn-in. Bulbs/tubes/valves burn-in. Anything mechanical has a break-in period, from vacuum cleaners to automobiles and heavy equipment. It can be from 2 minutes on tweeters to a few hundred hours on heavy equipment. Bulbs, on the other hand, have a pass or fail burn-in period, usually around 24 hours. Electronics usually have an infant mortality rating. The more moving parts they have, the longer that period is. EX: a CD or actual HD vs a cell phone or a memory drive. You can usually get that type of information from the manufacturer of the product.

There are some products that have to be run-in, like brand new tires for a car, brake rotors and pads, or a stylus on a tone arm. In other words, they work better and perform as they were intended once they are "run-in" and begin their normal service life. You see drivers at races driving side to side to warm up the sidewalls, and wear the silicone off the tire face. It is also nice to see if the tread is going to peel off the tire casing, but not at 200mph with weight on it, vs checking the balance at 200mph.

Break-in has several components working together.
Run-in is a single component that has to wear to a certain point to work properly.
Burn-in refers to bulbs and filament/plate failure, or the actual bulb/glass burning through.

(A) Burn-out lives two houses down from me. His name is Pete the puffer.

Regards
That's it boss, I've changed the title, but between you and I, that's called ''rodage'' and it fits way better than Break-in
 
First of all, it's called BREAK-IN, it has NEVER been called burn-in. Bulbs/tubes/valves burn-in. Anything mechanical has a break-in period, from vacuum cleaners to automobiles and heavy equipment. It can be from 2 minutes on tweeters to a few hundred hours on heavy equipment. Bulbs, on the other hand, have a pass or fail burn-in period, usually around 24 hours. Electronics usually have an infant mortality rating. The more moving parts they have, the longer that period is. EX: a CD or actual HD vs a cell phone or a memory drive. You can usually get that type of information from the manufacturer of the product.

There are some products that have to be run-in, like brand new tires for a car, brake rotors and pads, or a stylus on a tone arm. In other words, they work better and perform as they were intended once they are "run-in" and begin their normal service life. You see drivers at races driving side to side to warm up the sidewalls, and wear the silicone off the tire face. It is also nice to see if the tread is going to peel off the tire casing, but not at 200mph with weight on it, vs checking the balance at 200mph.

Break-in has several components working together.
Run-in is a single component that has to wear to a certain point to work properly.
Burn-in refers to bulbs and filament/plate failure, or the actual bulb/glass burning through.

(A) Burn-out lives two houses down from me. His name is Pete the puffer.

Regards
Bulbs are in the garden.
If you ever worked in a theatrical environment, you would know they are called LAMPS not BULBS, which are housed in FIXTURES. :rolleyes:
 
If you ever worked in a theatrical environment, you would know they are called LAMPS not BULBS, which are housed in FIXTURES.
Well, there's the rub. I was just a lowly mechanic. They were called light bulbs. Some of the repair manuals referred to them as bulbs, lights, and once in a while, they were called lamps. Usually in European manual.

As far as theater, I wouldn't have a clue what they call a bulb. :-) Normally, I call a complete assembly with a switch "a lamp" and if I had to use fire to light them, a lantern. Strange that they call the cover for the complete assembly a "lampshade", maybe you have something there. A fixture shade. :-)
''rodage''
I had to look it up. "Running-in, Breaking-in, or bedding-in." I had to think on that one, bedding-in refers to "seating".
"rodage" covers everything from what I can tell.

Any temporary changes within that timeframe completely revert over the course of days.
That is bringing any equipment or instrument up to operational readiness or warming up, it is not break-in. A turntable usually has to stabilize to be speed accurate, and the lubricants have to warm up. Same with all equipment, then they cool down. In Alaska, it happens pretty quickly; in Las Vegas, it can take days for the oil to completely cool down to ambient.

A fixture was a complete assembly, or usually a BOSS running his mouth. A useless article was pretty common, too.

Regards
 
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.
Why don't you just tell us the video's conclusions so we don't have to watch the video? (I'm never going to watch the video. I almost never watch videos. They're an extremely slow way to transmit information and I'm easily annoyed by them. I'm comfortable with this personal failing.)
 
Why don't you just tell us the video's conclusions so we don't have to watch the video? (I'm never going to watch the video. I almost never watch videos. They're an extremely slow way to transmit information and I'm easily annoyed by them. I'm comfortable with this personal failing.)
Well I sort of told it answering Kyu a few posts above, nothing new under the sun, but sometimes the travel is more important than the destination, it's a very well made video, the guy is just very good, you might learn one or two things along the way and discover a very good channel. That's the best channel I've seen on the subject personally, a mix of teaching skills and relevant knowledge. Try another video on the channel if you have no interest on the subject.
 
you might learn one or two things along the way and discover a very good channel.
I come here to learn things. I'm not in the market for a youtube channel (or for someone here trying to promote one for whatever reason).
 
I never trust stuff on Youtube to begin with. As a rule - respected, real experts have better channels. And when people use youtube to "reveal" differences in sound quality it gets really, really ridiculous. Just IMO.
 
That dope, Steve Guttenberg, had the preeminent loudspeaker designer of our day, Andrew Jones, on his Audiophiliac YouTube show.

Goofball Guttenberg had his mind blown when Jones told him that he breaks in loudspeakers by playing a 5 second tone burst to stretch the woofer suspensions. Done… broken in.

Guttenberg sat there with a confused look on his face and asked if that was it. Jones said something like, “Yes, that’s all you need.” He then moved on while the host regained his composure.

Break-in for normal people is playing your favorite song loud on your new speakers.

This is also assuming that they didn’t already crank them for a minute at the factory.

The sound of the speakers don’t change, but the perception of the listener does.
 
I come here to learn things. I'm not in the market for a youtube channel (or for someone here trying to promote one for whatever reason).
I don't know why you feel the need to be so hostile, I don't promote it for "whatever reason", I explicitly gave you the reasons, "I come here to learn things", yes me too, that is the reason. Obviously you'll never understand it because you'll never watch any of these videos. Now move along please.
 
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