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Dr. Toole's 4th Edition Book is Coming! (Discount)

In the near future, to join ASR it should be mandatory to

a. buy Dr. Toole's book
b. take a simple pop quiz to prove you read the book.
c. Then you can post

The existing members can be grandfathered in or prove they have read previous editions. :)
Not at all! The only requirement should be that you buy Ascilab speakers. ;)
 
@amirm Thanks for the heads up on the new release.

If anything like the previous editions, it will be a useful resource that belongs on any serious designer's bookshelf.
 
I’m not too far on the other side of 101, I ride my road bike on Mullholland past Rock Store, or used to anyway. Need to get back into riding.
Strava told me I have already ridden Rockstore over 1,100 times since I joined the app!
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Excuse the digression....

Hey @CtheArgie and @gvl, why not join @Snarfie, me, and 2 others on the "ASR Biking Sport an Fitness" group on Strava?

Here's the link to Strava: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1313246

Here's the ASR post where Snarfie started the group: ASR on Strava

BTW, I'm not far from you guys, out in Joshua Tree.

Back to regular programming. :cool:
 
Isn't that just a bullet point list of the whole book or specifically the new sections only? I'd say these were already covered when I've read snippets of previous versions.
If it's anything like the jump from version 1 to 3,* Toole will have incorporated the intervening ten years of additional academic research since the prior edition was published. And he will have read many of the misreadings of the prior edition on the internet, and he will spend considerable energy clarifying the sections that have been misconstrued.

For example, in the third edition, he addressed the position often erroneously attributed to him that room treatment especially first reflection point treatment is bad. His view, like the research it is based on, is far more nuanced than that. (And he even has a whole section about using room treatments!)

Further, it appears that there are whole new sections written by additional authors this time around.

People seem to forget that most of the content isn't Toole discussing his own research. Rather, he is bringing together the work of hundreds of other people in the field, not just summarizing his own work.

Looks like the new edition will take this even further by having sections written by other leading researchers, as well.

But my guess would be, as your question implies?, that if one is conversant in the third edition, from a practical standpoint, you will be familiar with the majority of what the fourth edition discusses -- especially if you are an AES member and have kept up to date for the past decade on the latest research and findings.

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*I talk about the jump from version 1 to 3 and ignore the so called "second" edition, because the second edition was just the first edition reprinted by a different publisher.
 
I don't know about you but I am quite anxious to get my hands on the much expended 4th edition of Dr. Toole's book:


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Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers, Rooms and Headphones​


As you see there (sorry couldn't find a sharper image), two of our other dear researchers, Dr. Olive and Todd Welti have contributed to it.

Audio education doesn't get any better than this folks. For the price of two fast food meals for two, you can learn so much!
The book went through copy-editing and we just sent back comments. It is moving along on schedule. The next task is creating the index and the content for a companion website accessible to people who purchase the book. I have at least 10 documents to create for the Headphone Chapter.
 
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Funny fact, I accidentally found out Dr. Toole lives in my neighborhood. I even met him once on occasion and he signed my copy of his book. Small world.
He lives in Ottawa now. But I live in his old neighborhood.
 
Good for him, hopefully he doesn’t have to deal with brush fires there.
No. But ice, snow and cold temperatures. I moved from Ottawa to California 32 years ago and haven’t forgotten winters.
 
I have the 2nd and 3rd editions already, and will get this one the day it's available. Far and away the best educational resource for audio enthusiasts. My personal home experience is so much better than it would have been without this.
 
Who has the third edition of the English version PDF to share? Thank you very much!
I can only buy the translated version here. It's said to be translated by a half-baked translator and has very bad reviews, similar to machine translation. So I want to find the original English version.
 
In the near future, to join ASR it should be mandatory to

a. buy Dr. Toole's book
b. take a simple pop quiz to prove you read the book.
c. Then you can post

The existing members can be grandfathered in or prove they have read previous editions. :)
Actually seriously: Members who can pass your suggested test should get a golden ear icon on their signature.
 
Who has the third edition of the English version PDF to share? Thank you very much!
I can only buy the translated version here. It's said to be translated by a half-baked translator and has very bad reviews, similar to machine translation. So I want to find the original English version.
Buy the translated one, and then contact Dr. Toole for the English pdf. It is not proper to just ask for the English version from another owner.
 
This is great news and will buy for sure to add to my 1st and 3rd editions. Will be interesting to see if there is anything new on how to include dynamic capabilities (dynamic range, efficiency, distortion and compression by SPL by Freq etc) in the preference score methodology as opposed to the spinorama FR data alone.

Having limitless and effortless dynamic range in a speaker is magical to behold, even if the FR is not perfectly flat and/or the dispersion is wide and even (witness the love of JTR speakers in the HT crowd), but it's not clear if there is a rational approach to balance these characteristics relative to each other.

Amir and Erin do a great job sharing the Distortion and compression measurements so huge kudos and thanks guys, but would love to see if these could somehow be quantified into the preference score.
 
Limitless and effortless dynamic range in a speaker is a fantasy. Or at the very least, hyperbole.
 
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