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Don't install the new Sonos App update

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If you can avoid it I recommend not to update your Sonos S2 App
under either iOS or Android.

Mine just updated and leaving aside the fact that Sonos has delivered the least intuitive UI ever, my system has become unresponsive, slow and useless.

Over at the Sonos Community people are going nuts. We all have money invested in a whole house solution which has been trashed by this useless update!

My Sonos has been working like a charm for years, running off SonosNet.

Thankfully I can use Roon as the controller , but it's so for from Sonos. Hoping they provide a version to roll back to.
 
I've been running LMS/Squeezebox/Logitech stuff for years, and initially was jealous of Sonos users experience/quality, if not the price. It seemed like the Mac of streaming/grouping home audio.

But at this point it's an abusive relationship between the company and their customers. First the whole brick old hardware thing, now this deliberate trashing of everyone with local music media. I can only assume their CEO/upper management is detested by the engineers and product people at the company.

Confession: I do have a few Sonos soundbars, but I don't try to use them from my LMS server, and never planned to.
 
Confession: I do have a few Sonos soundbars, but I don't try to use them from my LMS server, and never planned to.
Mine has worked very very well for a dozen or more years. I moved to the S2 app without issues. Using Sonosnet mesh network has been fine .... until this mess.

I'm restarting everything now .. let's see.

To all those using the funny plastic discs - good call ;)
 
Oh my this is troubling news - thank you for passing it along. I have a Sonos speaker in my kitchen and use the app to manage playlists. Thankfully I haven't yet updated.
 
I've powered everything down and restarted. Still laggy and inconsistent to be honest. Can't queue anything from Qobuz. You may be fine with one device.

I can enable a play 1 in Roon and stream to it with no issues from Qobuz. I can't do the same in the Sonos app :(
 
From today's Washington Post:

Why this company’s biggest fans turned against it​

When software runs your car, home theater, thermostat and more, one botched update can ruin everything.
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By Shira Ovide
May 17, 2024 at 12:30 p.m. EDT

A Sonos Roam speaker in 2021. (Phil Barker/Future Publishing/Getty Images)





Charles Knight starts his day listening to classical music that’s programmed to pipe through his Sonos speakers at 6:45 a.m.
But after Sonos updated its app last week, Knight could no longer set or change his wake-up music alarm. Timers to turn off music were also missing.

“Something as basic as an alarm is part of the feature set that users have had for 15 years,” said Knight, who has spent thousands of dollars on six Sonos speakers for his bedroom, home office and kitchen. “It was just really badly thought out from start to finish.”

Knight, who works for an education nonprofit organization in Britain, is among the Sonos die-hards who are furious at the new app that crippled their options to stream music, listen to an album all the way through or set a morning alarm clock.

Some people who are blind also complained that the app omitted voice-control features they need.


What’s happening to Sonos speaker owners is a cautionary tale. As more of your possessions rely on software — including your car, phone, TV, home thermostat or tractor — the manufacturer can ruin them with one shoddy update.

It’s not unusual for some fans to hate a “new and improved” product. (Look up New Coke or the backlash to Instagram redesigns.) But Sonos’s app release and how the company initially handled complaints were a blueprint for how to inspire loathing.

How Sonos made customers furious​

Not all Sonos speaker owners use the app and there are workarounds to some of the app’s hiccups. Some of them like the new app. But others just want their functional speakers back.

They’ve vented their rage at Sonos on Reddit, X, in one-star app reviews and a testy, hours-long online chat with company representatives.


Sonos now says it’s fixing problems and adding back missing features within days or weeks.
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Sonos CEO Patrick Spence acknowledged the company made some mistakes and said Sonos plans to earn back people’s trust.

“There are clearly people who are having an experience that is subpar,” Spence said. “I would ask them to give us a chance to deliver the actions to address the concerns they’ve raised.”
Spence said that for years, customers’ top complaint was the Sonos app was clunky and slow to connect to their speakers.

Spence said the new app is zippier and easier for Sonos to update. (Some customers disputed that the new app is faster.)
He said some problems like Knight’s missing alarms were flaws that Sonos found only once the app was about to roll out. (Sonos updated the alarm feature this week.)
Sonos did remove but planned to add back some lesser-used features. Spence said the company should have told people upfront about the planned timeline to return any missing functions.
A Sonos Move speaker in 2019. (Andrej Sokolow/Picture Alliance/DPA/AP)

Digging old CDs out of the closet​

Some Sonos speaker owners said the company made unnecessary mistakes and compounded them with arrogance.


Why, they asked, didn’t Sonos wait to update the app until it was complete and the bugs were fixed? A Sonos executive also said it took “courage” for the company to overhaul its app, which some customers said was dismissive of their complaints.

Chris Danielson, who is blind and works for the National Federation of the Blind, said it took him several minutes of hunting with voice-over controls just to play music from the new Sonos app.
He said Sonos at minimum should have warned people to skip the app update if they use voice-over screen readers. Sonos said it initially missed some software flaws and will restore more voice-reader functions next week.
Danielson said Sonos has a reputation for making usable products for people with disabilities. “Overnight they broke that trust,” he said.
Danielson said he’s sticking with his Sonos system because he’s spent a lot on it and believes Sonos makes good products. He’s also encouraged by the company’s pledge to add more app testers who are blind.



A Sonos speaker can cost hundreds of dollars or more, and the company has said the average customer owns three. A relatively small but passionate fan base likes Sonos for its promise of elegant, easy-to-use speakers. Some of them feel let down.
Ken Schellenberg, who is retired and lives in Arlington, Va., knows it’s not a tragedy that his 10 or so Sonos speakers are suddenly not so functional. But, he said, “music is a huge part of my life” — and now his audio setup is “maddening.”
Schellenberg had programmed his speakers to play different music each day of the week as he drank coffee. It’s not working. His favorite classical music website now plays one movement of Vivaldi’s “the Four Seasons” and stops.
Schellenberg’s app can’t play his thousands of downloaded digital albums. Instead he’s digging old CDs out of his closet.
“It’s like going back in time,” Schellenberg said.
 
Spence said the new app is zippier and easier for Sonos to update. (Some customers disputed that the new app is faster.)
It's not the missing features - the problem is the system is now so laggy and broken that it doesn't work at all. Press play and maybe music starts , maybe not, maybe in 2 minutes. It's an absolute car crash . He's taking out of his %^

Thank God for Roon which is working fine - hell it even has a sleep timer which the new Sonos app has removed.
 
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After the S1 / S2 app debacle we'll never give another dime to Sonos. It isn't functional from my perspective - music doesn't start playing from the speakers, then join in-progress one at a time with frequent cut outs. Pure garbage if you ask me.
 
After the S1 / S2 app debacle we'll never give another dime to Sonos. It isn't functional from my perspective - music doesn't start playing from the speakers, then join in-progress one at a time with frequent cut outs. Pure garbage if you ask me.
Mine has been good as gold on S2 for ages. Rock solid. I had an issue when I added a Roam - I think it's because this wouldn't use Sonos net and needed access to the normal wifi. Once I stopped using the roam and went back to 100% sonos net it's been good . Well until this shit show!
 
A big misstep on the part of Sonos. Ease of use / clean UX is one of their main selling points. When they first hit the market, they were the only game in town for consumer-friendly whole house streaming. Now we've got WiiM coming in hot. WiiM started with just electronics, but believe me when I say nothing is stopping them from putting out some decent streaming speakers at this point. They've already done the hard part in terms of building an app, streaming functionality, user-adjustable PEQ, etc. Now all they need to do is slap a 3-way speaker on top of a WiiM Amp and Sonos is going to have real competition for once.

I wonder if this app update is to pave the way for their upcoming headphones, otherwise why would you rush out an overhaul like this?
 
Mine has been good as gold on S2 for ages. Rock solid. I had an issue when I added a Roam - I think it's because this wouldn't use Sonos net and needed access to the normal wifi. Once I stopped using the roam and went back to 100% sonos net it's been good . Well until this shit show!
This reminds me of the time I renamed the wifi network. Getting the Sonos speakers going on it required hard factory resets on each unit...!
 
The new app is the gift that keeps giving - I've now found that my local music library (10s of thousands of tracks) is not included in the search function as it was previously. You now need to scroll through albums, artists etc - it's like the dark ages :)

Having rebooted my router I can get an album to play through, but the app is still sluggish. I wonder if it's just the new software breaking in ;)
 
I thought the old app was horrible already, not necessarily functionality-wise, but more the UX and speed. Now they seem to have swapped this around, except for the speed. :facepalm:
 
This is why I always turn off auto update and rarely do manual updates. Why fix something that ain't broken and that have a risk of breaking when fixing it? I've been burned to many times from updates that makes something worse either by design or by bugs, so I keep my stuff unupdated unless they force me to in some way or another.
 
This is why I always turn off auto update and rarely do manual updates. Why fix something that ain't broken and that have a risk of breaking when fixing it? I've been burned to many times from updates that makes something worse either by design or by bugs, so I keep my stuff unupdated unless they force me to in some way or another.
The android users have gone back to an old version of the app which is archived on a server somewhere . Us iOS users are less fortunate.

The old app was tab based and relatively intuitive - click this tab for your rooms, this one for your music services etc. The new UI is all tiles and swipes - the product of some gen Z UI expert no doubt ;)

To degrade functionality in the way they have is just a shocking piece of management - folks can't connect their local libraries, the playlist editing has gone, play from here function, sleep timer , network management - it's an absolute howler ...
 
The android users have gone back to an old version of the app which is archived on a server somewhere . Us iOS users are less fortunate.

The old app was tab based and relatively intuitive - click this tab for your rooms, this one for your music services etc. The new UI is all tiles and swipes - the product of some gen Z UI expert no doubt ;)

To degrade functionality in the way they have is just a shocking piece of management - folks can't connect their local libraries, the playlist editing has gone, play from here function, sleep timer , network management - it's an absolute howler ...
Yeah it's quite impressive when companies do this! Just like Spotify on the computer and that new left field where in the past was only playlists but now they crammed artists, albums and everything in there so it's working more like the mobile app, thing is that a computer is not a smartphone so there is no reason to have it like that. Lots of people have complained but Spotify won't listen. Really frustrating seeing BIG companies doing these things and refusing to listen to their costumers. Hope that Sonos will listen though so you can get back a functioning app!

Oh and yeah, that's one of the reasons why I don't use Apple stuff, they're probably the ones that forces people that hardest to always run the latest version of everything. I had a iPhone4 that got really sluggish when I reinstalled to the latest version, so I just gave up on it and bought an Android instead and never looked back.
 
I guess I'll be a contrarian ;) I LIKE the new app (certainly better than the old), and it works just fine for me. I certainly am not seeing any glitches or issues, and the app (and actions) are snappy and work well.

Not sure why my experience is so different from everyone else's.
 
I guess I'll be a contrarian ;) I LIKE the new app (certainly better than the old), and it works just fine for me. I certainly am not seeing any glitches or issues, and the app (and actions) are snappy and work well.

Not sure why my experience is so different from everyone else's.

Glad it's working for you. Can I ask about your set up ;

- number of devices (and their age)
- type of connection (wired, Sonos net, wifi)
- type of wifi network (make , mesh non/mesh)
- what you use it for (music/radio services/local library)

I have 8 speakers plus a boost. The boost connects to my router to form the Sonos net. Router is a TP DECO XE200 - a pair creating a mesh in the house, but that wifi network is not being used by Sonos. Oldest device is a play 1 from 2017. Newest is a play 1 sl from last year. I have my library on a network share and use qobuz. I find the interface laggy.

The look and feel is subjective so fair enough, but removing core functionality without notice is really poor. People are having all sorts of problems connecting devices. No customer support - wait times in excess of 70 minutes without resolution.

Good time to buy used Sonos - I think there will be a lot on the used market :)
 
Glad it's working for you. Can I ask about your set up ;

- number of devices (and their age)
- type of connection (wired, Sonos net, wifi)
- type of wifi network (make , mesh non/mesh)
- what you use it for (music/radio services/local library)

I have 8 speakers plus a boost. The boost connects to my router to form the Sonos net. Router is a TP DECO XE200 - a pair creating a mesh in the house, but that wifi network is not being used by Sonos. Oldest device is a play 1 from 2017. Newest is a play 1 sl from last year. I have my library on a network share and use qobuz. I find the interface laggy.

The look and feel is subjective so fair enough, but removing core functionality without notice is really poor. People are having all sorts of problems connecting devices. No customer support - wait times in excess of 70 minutes without resolution.

Good time to buy used Sonos - I think there will be a lot on the used market :)
I have a full Sonos Arc system in my master bedroom (i.e., soundbar + sub + Atmos / rears), two Moves set up as a stereo pair in my kitchen (also do double duty poolside since they're portable), and a Roam for travel. All of them wireless, and all series 2 (only started with these a couple years back, so no legacy devices). My WiFi is Netgear Orbi (mesh), and I use the Sonos devices mostly for music, either Apple Music, Qobuz, or local library (served by Plex).

I have no doubt some are having problems, just haven't seen it myself and, as I said, I prefer the new look / feel of the app vs. the older design.
 
I have a full Sonos Arc system in my master bedroom (i.e., soundbar + sub + Atmos / rears), two Moves set up as a stereo pair in my kitchen (also do double duty poolside since they're portable), and a Roam for travel. All of them wireless, and all series 2 (only started with these a couple years back, so no legacy devices). My WiFi is Netgear Orbi (mesh), and I use the Sonos devices mostly for music, either Apple Music, Qobuz, or local library (served by Plex).

I have no doubt some are having problems, just haven't seen it myself and, as I said, I prefer the new look / feel of the app vs. the older design.
Cool - I assume you connect direct to wifi (not sonosnet). I wonder if the newer products and older products don't play a nicely together .. I tried using our mesh for the network and it was very unstable . Had to go back to Sonosnet.

Happy it's working for you .
 
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