Does upgrading my center speaker wire make a difference?

[Doodski]

My movies vocals are louder and clearer now... so thanks for the another smart a** comment!

1 dB is not enough to make it louder. It might make it very very slightly different but not louder.

 

[Beave]

 

[alexb997]

Anyway guys - let's stop attacking me. I am happy with my speaker wire upgrade, and that's all that matters to me. You may wanna believe me or not, doesn't impact me.

The one thing I agree with you all, the MSRP of such speaker wires are outragous, it's a great build quality, and I am sure the copper is top notch, but I wouldn't have paid full price for it. Glad I found it used locally, and recommend them as such to others.

Thanks!

 

[alexb997]

Jeez, incredible, you all are still flaming!

@amirm You should change your site name to Troll central, hate central, or amir cult central!

 

[Doodski]

Jeez, incredible, you all are still flaming!

@amirm You should change your site name to Troll central, hate central, or amir cult central!

The reason they are doing this is because you are not making sense with your tiny frequency response change and claimed 1dB increase complete with the wife hearing it days later too. All add up to you imagining things.

 

[Beave]

He has been here since 2020, and nearly every single post is him arguing with the collective intelligence of the forum members. Make of that what you will.

 

[mcdn]

Jeez, incredible, you all are still flaming!

@amirm You should change your site name to Troll central, hate central, or amir cult central!

Another for the ignore list

 

[Chrispy]

Troll status confirmed I guess.

 

[antcollinet]

To my eye there's nothing that couldn't be expected run-to-run variations.

Particularly relating to microphone position - which even if just a cm or 2 different will result in vastly larger changes than any cable will make - even a really bad one.

 

[antcollinet]

Sorry, there was no advice, was all FLAMING,

Being told you are wrong is not flaming.

I provided you with an actual calculation, demonstrating how small the difference between your two cables can be - even if your new one were impossible-to-really-exist perfect zero impedance.

And ADVISED you to cancel the order.

Please explain how that was flaming, rather than advice.

 

[antcollinet]

WTF you're talking about... all of you claimed I am idiot trying to change cables for better sound of center speaker, I DID, and IT CHANGED, measurably with 1dB difference in volume and a different frequency response, then I AM demonstrating value rigidity?!

YOU ALL ARE.. it's amazing, I come ask, you all FLAME OUT, I try and it works and I prove it... you STILL FLAME OUT! LOL!

Hi. You seem to be lost. The subjective anti science forums are all over ----> that way.

 

[antcollinet]

Even my wife noted that vocals are more clear when we watched some TV tonight.

Was she in the kitchen when she noticed?

 

[antcollinet]

Jeez, incredible, you all are still flaming!

I am NOW. Your reaction is outrageous towards a bunch of people who've been trying to help you to the best of their ability.

 

[voodooless]

I try and it works and I prove it...

Several people explained to you why you didn’t prove anything. If you think we’re wrong, please back up your claims and we can have a discussion about that. Loud screaming doesn’t win an argument.

 

[mj30250]

As many others have indicated, the variation in your Audyssey results are within a completely expected tolerance range and would remain so even if absolutely nothing in the signal chain of your system had changed. I'm not sure how many measurement positions you used, but Audyssey requires a minimum of three. To even begin to expect identical results in both frequency response and speaker trims, your microphone would need to be placed in absolutely identical positions, and at the same height, in each of the three+ positions over each run. Achieving this in three (or more) positions is incredibly unlikely. In using Audyssey countless times myself I've seen main speaker trim swings of 1-1.5dB in between runs when nothing at all in the system had changed.

What you are allegedly hearing is very likely (based on your emotionally charged replies here) a significant degree of expectation bias. Do you have REW and a UMIK? They will generate a much higher-resolution frequency response plot than Audyssey does and provide you a fantastic opportunity to provide actual proof of your claim. Simply perform three sweeps of your center speaker, and without changing anything else, swap your older cable back in and perform three more sweeps. Share the results here.

Failing that (or a similar test), there is really nothing further to debate.

 

[Mort]

Y'all like to spend time with trolls. Wasn't this obvious when the OP 'bought' the cable without even engaging?

There should be a minimum post count before one is allowed to ask trolly questions.

 

[BDWoody]

Jeez, incredible, you all are still flaming!

Trying to help someone find their way out of the morass of ignorance that is the high end propaganda machine isn't flaming. What you are doing on the other hand...

@amirm You should change your site name to Troll central, hate central, or amir cult central!

We do tend to attract trolls, but our membership is (generally) remarkably patient, despite the nonsense attacks made by those who had been victimized by not understanding the difference between knowledge and data, and well told stories.

Who was the one spreading hate in this thread?

Cults focus on belief, as opposed to understanding. Which side of this issue focuses on just believing the story (however nuts the story may be) and emphasizes how data isn't important? We are about understanding. You apparently are not.

Maybe stop the projection and try to actually learn something if you care to participate in good faith. If not, no need to keep on this path here.