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Does ASR need a safe word?

I find the question surprising.

A safe word is generally needed in situations where you willingly take risks beyond what you're used to. Where you do things that you normally wouldn't. When you do things that you would be expected not to like in everyday life.

And so the word is useful to distinguish your expressions of pain, for instance, from the moment you actually wish for the pain to stop. Generally, it's playful, and the two parties are aware of that. And so we postulate that they are both benevolent.

why on earth would that logic apply to an internet forum? Why would you engage in a conversation that's possibly (too) painful with someone that's probably not in it to "play benevolently with your pain"?

if you discuss with someone who has as much goodwill as you do, then there's no need for safe word, is it?
and if you engage a discussion with ill-meaning people, then that is your responsibility, no one if forcing you to debate these people.

I'm all for "safe", but so yeah, better safe than sorry. Debating/confronting doesn't have to happen.

If a subjectivist comes here to "debate" me, I'll tell him "we don't see the things the same way, we don't need to, let me be". That's it. Why the need to prove them wrong?

I'm pretty sure that if you avoid useless conflicts, you'll never need a safe word.
 
I don't know if we need a safe word... but if there's a poll, my vote will be for floccinaucinihilipilification.

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oh. examples of why a safe word might come in handy.
this is a photograph of my amplifier.

 
pablolie said:
It seems we regularly fall out over trivialities, yet as a rule we are bonded here for the obvious.

I find it sad that on occasion I have bowed out of discussions with people because I have a very low trigger for yabbadadda ongoing debates even when previously I had enjoyed some members' (now blocked) contributions. Sure those were pig-headed (our community invites that) and while I thought mine were not, we all snap at some point.

But all in all I think we are here to advance the same notion (90%-ile which is better than the 80/20 rule) so the bipolar antagonism is self-defeating.

Should we have an ASR universally accepted safe word before going nuclear on each other which seems utterly self-defeating to me given we are trying to advance the notion of measurement-aware preference in audio?

PS: as an attempt to overcome this i'll unblock the very few people (<5) I blocked in the past except the jerk that called my Dad a Nazi whom I wish painful slow death.
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I block the obvious trolls like people signing up to just tell us how wrong we are. And the usual idiot showing up in one tread to defend a favorite product .
So i just hit ignore when people starts describe how a R2R dac has more 3 dimensional soundstage or something like that :) I use the infamous DAC tread to find them in advance and just mass ignore the latest batch off cuckoos .

But English is not my native tounge so , maybe you don't really get to rub me the wrong way properly ;) IE I may not be as offended as i should be .

And always remind yourself that it's just a forum .
I'm not always agreeing with you and all other forum members or our host or mods about everything , the trick is to not always feel to need to tell them or always have the last word with everyone.
Also if someone starts to sealion you with more and more questions in a passive aggressive maner : You have no obligation to answer hit ignore and move on :)
 
I'll give a maximum of three chances, then step out of trying to convince anyone of anything.

It's just Text On A Screen to me, and nothing to get hung about.
 
pablolie said:
as an attempt to overcome this i'll unblock the very few people (<5) I blocked in the past except the jerk that called my Dad a Nazi whom I wish painful slow death.
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Not everyone can combine a call for de-escalation and netiquette with a wish for an agonizing death. Congratulations
 
Mnyb said:
I'm more offended by the AQ cables ;)
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I chose that photo for a reason. :cool:
They were just passing through (in all seriousness); a few of us did a little cable round-robin thingy on the Polk forums some time back.

BUT... please do note the free/trial grade Black Discus thingies on the speaker cables*. ;)

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* The cables themselves are Canare and pretty much above reproach, in my defense. :p
 
pablolie said:
It seems we regularly fall out over trivialities, yet as a rule we are bonded here for the obvious.

I find it sad that on occasion I have bowed out of discussions with people because I have a very low trigger for yabbadadda ongoing debates even when previously I had enjoyed some members' (now blocked) contributions. Sure those were pig-headed (our community invites that) and while I thought mine were not, we all snap at some point.

But all in all I think we are here to advance the same notion (90%-ile which is better than the 80/20 rule) so the bipolar antagonism is self-defeating.

Should we have an ASR universally accepted safe word before going nuclear on each other which seems utterly self-defeating to me given we are trying to advance the notion of measurement-aware preference in audio?

PS: as an attempt to overcome this i'll unblock the very few people (<5) I blocked in the past except the jerk that called my Dad a Nazi whom I wish painful slow death.
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There definitely is a collective Pavlovian response to more nuanced discussions on measurements and audibility. Yes, there is major anti-science snake oil that "everything sounds different" in the industry. But there are also those of a rather anti-scientific disciples of stringent "nothing can ever measure or sound different" here as well.


JSmith said:
How about just nuclear? :)

FTC thread could have done with this... which I bowed out of towards the start, as it simply became circular and a waste of precious time. I made my points clear...


JSmith
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I need to work on this once duplicitous posters start in on it.
Waxx said:
People get rude down here from time to time, but i think the admnis do already a lot to avoid that. It's way worse on other fora. But stepping out of discussions or ignoring people is what can help you. I don't ignore people as far as i know, but i did also stepped out discussions for that rudeness. Real flamewars like on many other sites i haven't seen here yet (luckely)

People often also ignore the original question of statement and start to push their id's without regarding if they are relevant of the discussion or the question of the OP, and i think that is way more annoying than a big mouth here and there. But within the rules of the site, it's a free speech discussion here, and if they violate the rules, you should in first place notify and admin.
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Topics often meander around. It's been that way since USENET rec.audio back in the 80s.
Really, the OP is perhaps best to decide.
JSmith said:
Nah, it's not a forum thing... it's a sexual thing, whereby @pablolie suggested we apply the concept to the forum when discussions start to go awry. :oops: :D


JSmith
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Oooooh...
Well, I can see the basis of that reference now that it's been pointed out. Being forced to listen to class D amps shreaking way DOES require a safe word!
:)
mhardy6647 said:
I don't know if we need a safe word... but if there's a poll, my vote will be for floccinaucinihilipilification.

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oh. examples of why a safe word might come in handy.
this is a photograph of my amplifier.

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I bet you rotated the back center tube to correct for staging 'balance'! :)


Mnyb said:
I block the obvious trolls like people signing up to just tell us how wrong we are. And the usual idiot showing up in one tread to defend a favorite product .
So i just hit ignore when people starts describe how a R2R dac has more 3 dimensional soundstage or something like that :) I use the infamous DAC tread to find them in advance and just mass ignore the latest batch off cuckoos .
:)
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But make sure one at least reads the actual post and respond to what they have posted. As opposed to simply identifying it as "them" and immediately ascribing ulterior motives to them.
 
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