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Does ASR need a safe word?

How about, "evidence"?
 
...as in, "show me the evidence or shut up, ya giant PITA". :cool:
 
pablolie said:
Should we have an ASR universally accepted safe word before going nuclear on each other which seems utterly self-defeating to me
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It is self-defeating. If a person loses self-control, they have exposed a weakness, and can be manipulated ... repeatedly. They have in effect put themselves in an indefensible position.
Ask yourself whether the issue at hand is worth that. If it's not, then let it go.

Every time that you feel like you will "go nuclear", just remember that you are giving total control to your adversary. If that's not scary enough to stop you in your tracks, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
A safe word to signal that confrontational discussion should be avoided is antithetical to the main premise of this forum.
 
So funny, and true. I can usually count on one hand the number of pages it takes before I stop following a thread for the very reason expressed above.
Hmm…
Come to think of it it’s usually by page 2 when I know it’s time to drop the peace sign and unwatch.

I wish it wasn’t so.
 
People get rude down here from time to time, but i think the admnis do already a lot to avoid that. It's way worse on other fora. But stepping out of discussions or ignoring people is what can help you. I don't ignore people as far as i know, but i did also stepped out discussions for that rudeness. Real flamewars like on many other sites i haven't seen here yet (luckely)

People often also ignore the original question of statement and start to push their id's without regarding if they are relevant of the discussion or the question of the OP, and i think that is way more annoying than a big mouth here and there. But within the rules of the site, it's a free speech discussion here, and if they violate the rules, you should in first place notify and admin.
 
A nice one,"mirror" .
It usually sanes healthy egos.The other ones,well...

(leaving a lost cause is not giving up,is wisdom)
 
This forum is fairly peaceful and mostly tame I find... compared to other forums.

It's only when there is a "one side vs the other side" type thread, neither will back down and arguments then ensue. Although I find most members don't get personal here and stick to facts... most, not all. ;)
raif71 said:
I and another person here in another thread were back and forth on an issue until we stopped after I sent an animated gif of a cat wanting to hug. I suppose he accepted the hug :)
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It can be a thread settler when people are arguing and someone posts a light hearted comment, meme, gif or other amusing joke.


JSmith
 
JSmith said:
This forum is fairly peaceful and mostly tame I find... compared to other forums.

It's only when there is a "one side vs the other side" type thread, neither will back down and arguments then ensue. Although I find most members don't get personal here and stick to facts... most, not all. ;)

It can be a thread settler when people are arguing and someone posts a light hearted comment, meme, gif or other amusing joke.


JSmith
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One partial reason for this peace is sadly the absence of the early day's wealth of really experienced,hands-on audio members.

I use to read this old threads just for the names involved.
I guess it becomes tiresome after a while,so...
 
Keith_W said:
If I see their response, I simply ignore them and I do not reply.
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Yep... it's funny though, when younger I would battle people on arguments for months sometimes. "Someone is wrong on the internet!"

Nowadays I tend to just consider how the post makes them look to others, not reply and move on to something more productive.

Often it's difficult or impossible to change peoples minds on certain topics, even with solid data and research to back up ones position.


JSmith
 
pablolie said:
Should we have an ASR universally accepted safe word
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There is the problem right there. To work, a safe word must be universally accepted. Trolls are never going to do that.

I find the best safe "word" is the ignore button. I don't always succeed, but if I feel my buttons are being pushed, I'll use it - not as an "I'm never going to see that person again" but as a method of taking me out of that particular conversation: Ensuring that I'll not see anything provoking me to respond.

As often as not, I'll later see that person participating in a thread - have a little peek, find they are being perfectly reasonable. I'll then unblock them again.... until the next time. There are a small few - perhaps only one or two - who I now recognise just rub me up the wrong way whenever I engage with them. They remain blocked, as do the obvious trolls.
 
I don't see how a safe word could work - if someone doesn't have the self-control to stay out of a sh#tstorm by simply not replying then how would they be capable of saying/writing the word at the right time?

My advice - detox pauses. Just log off from time to time, spend a couple weeks without logging back in. I just did that and it felt nice. I've also suspended my FB account, will try to stay off for at least a quarter. Feels good too, like a weight off your shoulders.
 
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Moderate Dionysianism said:
So true. @pkane's Multitone test thread, with you and several others testing & reporting bugs was my most wholesome read on this forum, and probably top 5 on the entire internet.
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Most fun and educational (for me) thread,ever,by a long margin,@pkane is amongst the most generous and knowledgeable members far and beyond dry theory only.
But what I'm talking about is far before that,at the beginnings (didn't even had the guts to sign-up with the little I knew or thought I knew) .

Hot debates,yes,but meaningful ones.
(and then came the egos,as always)
 
Why not keep it short?

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Keith_W said:
Rather than expecting other people to moderate their behaviour, why not moderate your reaction? You can choose not to get offended or get triggered. For sure some people on ASR really irritate me. If I see their response, I simply ignore them and I do not reply.
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I've used various forums for well over a quarter century (used to be called bulletin boards), and every forum has always had some subset of users that couldn't or wouldn't conform to social norms with regards to discourse.

So I've always been a proponent of specific rules, and stricter moderation. I've mentioned it to the moderation staff here, and they have requested people use the report button first and foremost.
 
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ryanosaur said:
So funny, and true. I can usually count on one hand the number of pages it takes before I stop following a thread for the very reason expressed above.
Hmm…
Come to think of it it’s usually by page 2 when I know it’s time to drop the peace sign and unwatch.

I wish it wasn’t so.
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So accurate ! I always think of this by the 4th page :
 

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