does anyone listen to Taylor Swift? tell me what the draw is

[Vacceo]

Yea, no excuse for a 20 or 30 something performer.
It was SOP for 50s and 60s rock, they all lip sync'd
I've seen Henley and the Eagles something like 4 times over the years, he was a great singer/performer.
If he needs a little help today, I'll give him a pass.
I can't do a lot of what I used too either.

I have seen Venom live four times. Each time they played worse than the previous. Not every band can say that!

 

[diddley]

 

[Robin L]

Strange, so many opinions from so many far too old to be her target audience.
Whatever she's doing, she's making serious bank right now, which is more than can be expected from most musicians trying to make a living these days.
She's found her demo and she's milking it for all it's worth.
If she was a CEO she'd be on the cover of Forbes.
Wait a minute, she already is:

 

[CapMan]

apparently the draw is her guitar chops.

I just coughed up my morning coffee reading that - thanks

 

[CapMan]

highly intresting

Taxi for Mr Henley

 

[CapMan]

What it means is the man might need a little help to sound good at 76.
Let's see if anyone even knows who that little twerp is 50 years from now.

So happy to defend the chap who charges $$$ to folks for miming along at a live gig whilst at the same time being rude about the guy who called out the dishonesty.

 

[Mart68]

So happy to defend the chap who charges $$$ to folks for miming along at a live gig whilst at the same time being rude about the guy who called out the dishonesty.

The way I see it, Henley's paid his dues over decades (I saw him live back in 1990 and he wasn't a spring chicken even then) whereas Mr Nigel Tufnel look-alike rich kid internet nobody has done jack apart from try to get hits for his poxy You-Tube channel. Let's see him write and perform a song of the standard of 'Desperado', then maybe he's got the right to complain.

Lip-synching at live gigs has been going on for decades. How else do these people dance and jump around all over the stage and still hit all the notes perfectly? I mean, come on!

Probably they keep synch tracks as a back up since given their age they can't rely on being up to scratch vocally for every night on tour - what's the alternative? Cancel at the last minute and let everyone down? Not just the fans but hundreds of jobs depend on these tours.

 

[CapMan]

Probably they keep synch tracks as a back up since given their age they can't rely on being up to scratch vocally for every night on tour - what's the alternative? Cancel at the last minute and let everyone down? Not just the fans but hundreds of jobs depend on these tours.

Why go out on tour if your chops have gone and you can no longer perform each night. I know it happens - but the Eagles have done enough, the Eagles don't need to do it..

 

[Mart68]

Why go out on tour if your chops have gone and you can no longer perform each night. I know it happens - but the Eagles have done enough, the Eagles don't need to do it..

Neither do the Rolling Stones, and probably a lot of others - Taylor Swift could pack it in tomorrow and go and live in luxury on her own Caribbean island, but she doesn't.

They do it because they want to do it. Which is the best reason to do anything.

 

[CapMan]

Lip-synching at live gigs has been going on for decades. How else do these people dance and jump around all over the stage and still hit all the notes perfectly? I mean, come on!

There's not really an equivalence between teeny boppers bouncing around and the Eagles - one is famous for their vocal harmonisation

 

[CapMan]

They do it because they want to do it.

I'd love to turn up at work and have a recording of my younger self doing the job for me

 

[Mart68]

There's not really an equivalence between teeny hoppers bouncing around and the Eagles - one is famous for their vocal harmonisation

well, there's some equivalence, even if it isn't total.

 

[Mart68]

I'd love to turn up at work and have a recording of my younger self doing the job for me

I know, I should have stuck with those guitar lessons. I think Mark Knopfler wrote a song about it.

 

[Vacceo]

If she kept to Flamenco, which is the genre she shines at, the music quality would be a lot better.

I cannot stand he stage persona but it is fair to admit she's incredibly talented in her parent genre.

 

[diddley]

The way I see it, Henley's paid his dues over decades (I saw him live back in 1990 and he wasn't a spring chicken even then) whereas Mr Nigel Tufnel look-alike rich kid internet nobody has done jack apart from try to get hits for his poxy You-Tube channel. Let's see him write and perform a song of the standard of 'Desperado', then maybe he's got the right to complain.

Lip-synching at live gigs has been going on for decades. How else do these people dance and jump around all over the stage and still hit all the notes perfectly? I mean, come on!

Probably they keep synch tracks as a back up since given their age they can't rely on being up to scratch vocally for every night on tour - what's the alternative? Cancel at the last minute and let everyone down? Not just the fans but hundreds of jobs depend on these tours.

It's just one big lie you looking at and dancing to.
With dead can dance the music played on even when there were no musicians on stage, it was amusing but same time you know you 've been fooled. for lots of money.
I am not going to big shows no more.Mr. Henley was in our land this week and got a good review in the newspaper but i am glad i didn't go.

 

[Mart68]

It's just one big lie you looking at and dancing to.
With dead can dance the music played on even when there were no musicians on stage, it was amusing but same time you know you 've been fooled. for lots of money.
I am not going to big shows no more.Mr. Henley was in our land this week and got a good review in the newspaper but i am glad i didn't go.

I did look at going since the support was Steely Dan. Cheapest ticket I could find was £460 but if you wanted a seat that was within half a mile of the stage - £1600

Plus the train there and back, hotel for the night, you've got to get a t-shirt of course, probably looking at 2 grand all-in.

If he came out the audience personally to me and sang acapella I still wouldn't pay that much.

 

[Axo1989]

If she kept to Flamenco, which is the genre she shines at, the music quality would be a lot better.

I cannot stand he stage persona but it is fair to admit she's incredibly talented in her parent genre.

Yes, I was going to chime in and cite her flamenco talent. But the neko dance in the Chicken Teriyaki vid is a fun J-Pop take-off (and the song a nice homage to Pizzicato 5 perhaps) picking it to denigrate her ability is pretty slack really if that’s what @diddley was actually doing (not sure it was). Motomami is a great album overall. Generally I think it’s often great when artists like Rosalia stretch their genre boundaries. Y’all will remember when Poppy did actual (albeit surrealistic) kawaii pop …

Spoiler: … but why not mix it up and who doesn’t enjoy a good collab?

 

[AdamG]

Bunch of posts deleted and one member has earned a perm ban and will not be returning. Anymore sexism crap will be dealt with in the same way. This got way out of hand.

 

[Sal1950]

The way I see it, Henley's paid his dues over decades (I saw him live back in 1990 and he wasn't a spring chicken even then) whereas Mr Nigel Tufnel look-alike rich kid internet nobody has done jack apart from try to get hits for his poxy You-Tube channel. Let's see him write and perform a song of the standard of 'Desperado', then maybe he's got the right to complain.

Amen
You can tell who's not in their 70s yet by some posts. LOL
If I could afford it, I still be happy and thrilled to see Henley, Walsh, Schmit, Gill on stage one more time before I die.
I first saw them around 1973 when they were Linda Ronstadt's band and knew within 10 minutes of their solo opening set that they were something special. 200 million albums later and they're still on the road selling out all around the world.
So feel free to slam DH for using some tape assistance if you will, he's still one of the greatest song writers and performers in rock history.
YMMV

 

[diddley]

Yes, I was going to chime in and cite her flamenco talent. But the neko dance in the Chicken Teriyaki vid is a fun J-Pop take-off (and the song a nice homage to Pizzicato 5 perhaps) picking it to denigrate her ability is pretty slack really if that’s what @diddley was actually doing (not sure it was). Motomami is a great album overall. Generally I think it’s often great when artists like Rosalia stretch their genre boundaries. Y’all will remember when Poppy did actual (albeit surrealistic) kawaii pop …

Spoiler: … but why not mix it up and who doesn’t enjoy a good collab?

No I was not denigrating at all! an example of female talent and how it can be used.
Motomami rocks!