The thing giving me hope is the change in tone over the last couple of weeks. I really can't overstate just how much the tone has changed, DW fan sites went from being deeply divided, polluted by all sorts of stuff that had little to do with DW (on both sides of the Chibnall era) to being back to a lot of excited geeks talking about DW, being enthusiastic, being geeky, looking forward with hope. If for nothing else I thank RTD for that. It's almost like a dam has burst.
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Doctor Who - The 14th Doctor
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I would still start with the ninth (the reboot).
To be honest, this thread kind of illustrates what has gone wrong with pop culture. No offence to anyone here, and I hope you all realise I say this as someone who likes you all and thinks of you as friends and I know I'm also guilty.
This.
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Well according to this James Bond will never be a woman. Because Barbara Broccoli owns it and said so.
The Actors Who Might Be The Next James Bond
Tom Hardy, Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Sam Heughan and more are all in the running for the keys to the DB5
If they go with a non-traditional Bond, my choice on that list would be Riz Ahmed. But I think the list is little more than fantasy at this point.
On the James Bond franchise, I see a difference between this one and others in that 007 is a number, so after killing off James Bond I don't have any issue with anyone getting the 007 number, regardless of their colour or gender. I actually really liked Lashana Lynch in 'No Time to Die', but that's just me.
Looks like they're all doing a fancy dance now, testing the waters.
As I read the ending Lashana Lynch is the next 007
007 isn't James Bond?
More re-writing of history. LOL
We'll see what the future holds.
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Can we stop talking about racism? Including the ludicrous idea of racism towards straight white males being why the new DW is not white?
How did this talk get so out of hand? Racism is the belief of superiority of one race over another.
At worst, the issue raised here is possible positive discrimination.
And the fact that he blitzed the field in audition kind of kills that one.
How did this talk get so out of hand? Racism is the belief of superiority of one race over another.
At worst, the issue raised here is possible positive discrimination.
And the fact that he blitzed the field in audition kind of kills that one.
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We disagree and you have an incorrect definition of racism.
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Well, I think she gave back the 007 designation by end of the movie did she not? Maybe it is time to return to the Casino Royale concept. The one from 1967 with David Niven and Peter Sellers and Ursala Andress (having previously been in one with Sean Connery). In that one all the British MI6 secret agents were James Bond 007.Looks like they're all doing a fancy dance now, testing the waters.
As I read the ending Lashana Lynch is the next 007
007 isn't James Bond?
More re-writing of history. LOL
We'll see what the future holds.
I think there is a healing process taking place in Doctor Who, after the Chibnall era RTD is repairing a lot of damage and stitching fans back together. Unfortunately, after the five years it's hard to avoid the identity stuff after Chibnall and his friends weaponized identity in the show. Any critics were denounced as -ists and -phobes by the same critics who are now doing post mortems and throwing the same criticisms at Chibnall and Whittaker. The culture in Doctor Who fandom has been toxic for years with neither side being blameless but I am hoping it is behind us.
Not sure the reasoning behind your optimisim.
All I see is the same thought process behind the choice for the new Dr as there was for the last.
Not sure the reasoning behind your optimisim.
All I see is the same thought process behind the choice for the new Dr as there was for the last.
I think RTD is too good at what he does, and also mindful of his reputation, to cast anyone unless he is confident they are right for the role. I think we all know that he will be right on message, but throughout his career RTD has consistently been right on message whilst making terrific TV. He is what many modern TV makers want to be but which very few are, someone who can wrap very in fashion ideas into great drama and sell it to anyone.
That is very different to Chibnall. To be fair to Chibnall he showed with DW and Torchwood that he can be pretty good when under supervision and with someone to edit his ideas but he was woeful as show runner, completely out of his depth. I think he is a prime example of the Peter principle. He selected a lead who depending on perspective was either a good actress miscast or a mediocre actress found out by DW, and his writing was atrocious. The result was it all felt like someone sneering at half of the audience with their preachiness and with nothing there other than a message.
I can only speak for myself but RTD can be as woke as he wants to be (to use the common term) as long as he provides good Doctor Who, and I really feel confident he will do that.
There's really only a handful of stories that were any good, mostly written by Terry Nation.
Try
Genesis Of The Daleks
Robots Of Death
The Pyramids Of Mars
All from Tom Baker era.
I don't care who the Doctor is played by it's the story and script that make it good or not. Acting a part like Dr Who is not hard.
Only seen a handful of the reboot episodes, some are dreadful, there's a few good story ideas mostly poorly executed. Like a lot of reboots they toss out the things that made it good and emphasise the things that make it lame. Gave up on it years ago.
Still hoping someone competent will have a go at rebooting Blakes 7. Now that was a good show. Terry Nation again ofc.
I loved Blake's 7, but I hope it is left in peace. The show had an ending that was perfect for its bleak, dystopian vision of the future. And it wouldn't be the same without Jacqueline Pearce or Paul Darrow. Given the track record of TV companies resurrecting old shows I would rather keep the happy memories rather than seeing a Blake's 7 equivalent of Star Trek Discovery, Chibnall era DW or The Last Jedi.
I have not heard of Blake 7. I might check that out.
Any thoughts on Torchwood? I think I saw maybe the first episode, and it seemed a bit dry and left it.
Really amazing how many Dr. Who Spinoffs there are. While I was looking at the catalog on Amazon adding up my watch list. I saw a OLD GOLDY of my teen years. And that was Tank Girl. A movie I enjoyed. And I watched it again 2 days ago. And I STILL love that movie.
Its weird however. Its seems like they deleted parts of it. Or they cut it weird from what I saw in the theatre. Not sure. But it sure seems like there are parts missing. Or maybe it was me. But man, going to the theatre to watch that was a Jolly fun time.
I know the movie did not do well in the box office. But at the time? Sure did not seem like it was doing bad and only made 6 million of its 20 million budget I found out yesterday.
And I remember my Favorite line of the movie.
BRUSH YOUR TEETH!
How does this relate to Dr. WHo? They just seem to have lost the edge. That spark. I think Green screen has something to do with it. And of course the fighting scenes etc. The action just seems a bit too muted.
Tank Girl will have cosplayers and halloween costumes for it forever. And they still do well after all these years.
I don't think the same is going to be said about Dr. Who. In fact the first Doc on Reboot was one of my Favorites.
He just had the pizzazz. Like this Energy. In fact everyone seemed to be so into character. I don't get that with the later versions of the show as much.
The lost the Drama portion and seemed to go for cheap storylines. Tank girl was a cheap story line for sure.
But it was done in a way that was outright Ludacris. Malcom Mcdowel played the perfect villain role. I mean who takes on a tank full of Beer Cans! And the extra animation to the story.
I can't point to anything out of the blue in the New Dr. Who as of late. It's so mundane. So predictable. And just lazy. They also seemed to forget that it was a Science show. They took out all the geekdom. Its just not there as it use to be.
Anyways. Here's to Hoping that the New season is actually good.
Any thoughts on Torchwood? I think I saw maybe the first episode, and it seemed a bit dry and left it.
Really amazing how many Dr. Who Spinoffs there are. While I was looking at the catalog on Amazon adding up my watch list. I saw a OLD GOLDY of my teen years. And that was Tank Girl. A movie I enjoyed. And I watched it again 2 days ago. And I STILL love that movie.
Its weird however. Its seems like they deleted parts of it. Or they cut it weird from what I saw in the theatre. Not sure. But it sure seems like there are parts missing. Or maybe it was me. But man, going to the theatre to watch that was a Jolly fun time.
I know the movie did not do well in the box office. But at the time? Sure did not seem like it was doing bad and only made 6 million of its 20 million budget I found out yesterday.
And I remember my Favorite line of the movie.
BRUSH YOUR TEETH!
How does this relate to Dr. WHo? They just seem to have lost the edge. That spark. I think Green screen has something to do with it. And of course the fighting scenes etc. The action just seems a bit too muted.
Tank Girl will have cosplayers and halloween costumes for it forever. And they still do well after all these years.
I don't think the same is going to be said about Dr. Who. In fact the first Doc on Reboot was one of my Favorites.
He just had the pizzazz. Like this Energy. In fact everyone seemed to be so into character. I don't get that with the later versions of the show as much.
The lost the Drama portion and seemed to go for cheap storylines. Tank girl was a cheap story line for sure.
But it was done in a way that was outright Ludacris. Malcom Mcdowel played the perfect villain role. I mean who takes on a tank full of Beer Cans! And the extra animation to the story.
I can't point to anything out of the blue in the New Dr. Who as of late. It's so mundane. So predictable. And just lazy. They also seemed to forget that it was a Science show. They took out all the geekdom. Its just not there as it use to be.
Anyways. Here's to Hoping that the New season is actually good.
well worth your time. They showed them all here recently on Forces TV, one episode per night. I'd not seen them since they were originally broadcast in the 1970s. It was the best thing on TV while it was being re-run - and I've got every channel.
You have to get past the 1970s BBC production values though and appreciate the characters and the dialogue.
Even the 'good guys' are morally ambiguous, I do wonder if that's why it was never continued or rebooted. It was a very popular show, viewing figures in the millions, but the BBC cancelled it anyway.
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I liked it... but the first few seasons are the better stories. It's a bit darker that Dr Who, there are no qualms around shooting someone for example. After that it get's a bit out of hand, especially the last season which was years after the one prior... to me that was barely Torchwood and just a bit off all around.
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