Equalization (if needed) is gear and room oriented. With Shannon--Nyquist you always get the perfect data required to perfectly recreate the signal you want to capture.
My apartment has good acoustics: in the sense I can listen with perfect pitch reproduction noise from my neighbors
What do we call room modes? Distortion?My apartment has good acoustics: in the sense I can listen with perfect pitch reproduction noise from my neighbors
But unfortunately we suffer both from rhinitis at home, so we have no carpets or curtains, fabrics are limited to the minimum… all is reflective at home.
By ear I’m satisfied with just correcting a couple of modes, and the crossover region of my Genelecs (2 way monitors place vertically, has a moderate 2-3 dB dip on 2-3 kHz).
And we enjoy our music nevertheless right? And we did way before this quest for more utter accuracy started...
Not in my case, the low ends eats melody and is fatiguing to me. I prefer to equalize and enjoy more the music. One of the modes is nearly 9 dB, so the frequencies there are perceived twice as loud as other frequencies.What do we call room modes? Distortion?
Obviously you can post what you like up to the pont that the moderators allow.I repeat there's plenty of classical music with distortion around. Listen to Matthew Herbert's "Mahler" on Deutsche Grammophon. It's horrific but basically it is an ode to distortion, among other things. Clipping, crossover, slewing... to the max. On purpose, which if you listen to Matthew Herbert regularly is zero surprise. I hate it.
For example, go to 5:50 here:
Plus the person asking me to start my own thread is not the OP, so he can protest all he wants and see how much I care. This *is* a topic on distortion and whether we like it, says so in the title (without any reference to any H).
PS: It was claimed in the album notes all the effects were created by distortion of classical music passages and recording in weird places (including a casket) with weird techniques. In other places, of course, I actually find distortion can add pleasing effects, Max Richter uses it masterfully in many of his classic-newage compositions and albums like his Vivaldi interpretation.
When walking teh dog last night I figured that ^that^ is how a dummy (like me) would do it
Irregardless of the truth, it seemed like the lore fit in well with idea of the H2.
If MSG is mono sodium glutamate (or something like that) then are a lot of restaurants that add it, Chinese or other nationalities…Obviously you can post what you like up to the pont that the moderators allow.
My point was @Keith_W was adding H2.
The suggesting that an orchestra is distortion sound may be interesting, but I do not think that the musicians are adding harmonics.
Gawd only knows what mixing engineers are doing.
Threads often straw away from OP’s intent, and often in interesting ways.
Try not to take my knee-jerk (or third derivative of keen angle), as a mandate to start your own thread.
It is just that the orchestra seems to have no bearing on someone, or some mixing person, using H2 like a Chinese restaurant uses MSG to improve the taste.
When walking teh dog last night I figured that ^that^ is how a dummy (like me) would do it
But then I wondered about C being positive or negative?
When I went through college I washed dishes at a Chinese restaurant to make my way and part of my job was refilling the large tubs and barrels of supplies in the kitchen. The kitchen consumed about 30 pounds of MSG per 3 or 4 months. Tiny quantities in some dishes but not all.
Here in Europe is mandatory to declare dishes with MSG since 2018, but we discussed the “MSG syndrome” with our GE specialist at the clinic and told us is a myth… studies shown that people suffering symptoms were undergo blind trials and shown symptoms with placebo as strong as with MSG
I think Pablolie was talking about effects added on the recordings, some videos he shown were horrendous… but were “clean” in the sense of the album shown that added harmonics and effects.Obviously you can post what you like up to the pont that the moderators allow.
My point was @Keith_W was adding H2.
The suggesting that an orchestra is distortion sound may be interesting, but I do not think that the musicians are adding harmonics.
Gawd only knows what mixing engineers are doing.
Threads often straw away from OP’s intent, and often in interesting ways.
Try not to take my knee-jerk (or third derivative of keen angle), as a mandate to start your own thread.
It is just that the orchestra seems to have no bearing on someone, or some mixing person, using H2 like a Chinese restaurant uses MSG to improve the taste.
When walking teh dog last night I figured that ^that^ is how a dummy (like me) would do it
But then I wondered about C being positive or negative?
I’m not sure what GLM is.
Some people say that “the less the better”. Sound like you and I are in that group, where taming it to an extent and calling it a day is where we stop.
My AVP uses Lyngdorf “Room Perfect” (RP).
Impulse response is the delay on starting to sound a particular frequency? Then I understand the phase coherency…I’m not sure what GLM is.
DIRAC is interesting as most speakers do not have great impulse response, and there is not phase coherency. So using DIRAC to correct the speakers seems like a great idea to clean up poorly performing speakers.
Then the various room corrections make sense.
Do correcting the speakers and correcting the room seem like a good start.
I am as much TT as digital, or more so.
So I do not worry a whole lot about individual songs.
Since most preamps no longer have any tone controls it makes it a bot harder to just twist the (non existent) bass and treble knobs…
Hence I stay away from correcting individual songs. Whatever the cabal that made it came up with, i just accept it. (Or do not play it.)
Similar to how I do not always listen to every song on an album, with the exception os “The Streets” album “A Grand Don’t Come for Free”.
Some people say that “the less the better”. Sound like you and I are in that group, where taming it to an extent and calling it a day is where we stop.
Yeah-no.
I think we are in somewhat of agreement here.
How can you apply it only and exclusively to the drum, though? It may be more noticeable in the drum, but it'll boost that harmonic for everything that touches that frequency in the recoding, no?
Correct - but in his review Erin said he was targeting the drum specifically.
