cybercobra
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HiFi-n00b here. After reading various threads (here and elsewhere) about amplifier wattage requirements, and making some detailed spreadsheets about available amplifiers and about my particular wattage needs, and thereby getting depressed (at the lack of consensus/confidence), I decided to go for "definite overkill and future-proofing, on an increased (by my standards) budget".
Also, this amp will be part of a dual-purpose stereo speaker system, hooked up to both music and my TV. So it needed either HDMI input, or an auto-on+off feature, or low idle power consumption (climate change is real and bad, folks).
Ultimately I decided on a DIY Class D UcD400 stereo kit amplifier, using Hypex UcD technology. I was eager to finally make some decision after so many hours spent researching...
If you're here for sonic performance measurements, stop reading now; I don't have any of the equipment for that. But let's see what the actual power consumption and waste heat are..
Vendor's Data
Hypex's FAQ states (emphasis mine):
Since the kit is stereo and includes 2 of those boards, I expected (at most) twice the quiescent wattage, i.e. 16W.
And likely less than that, since the single included SMPS400A400 shared power supply is rated "only" 600W max & 400W max @ 20Hz; versus the amp boards' combined 800W rating. The power supply's datasheet states:
I am unclear on how 8Ω speakers impact the consumed (vs. provided) wattage.
After assembly, the kit connects directly to a wall outlet via IEC cable; no external power brick. Being a power amp, it lacks any built-in volume control.
Test Setup
I'm happy to report that 2-day EU-US UPS shipping operated without delay, despite COVID, etc. I am not a lawyer, but amplifiers apparently being tariff-free in the US probably helps. On the downside, no significantly cheaper shipping options were offered by the vendor.
Annoyingly, the vendor's payment solution declined transactions with both of my US credit cards. I verified with customer service for one of the cards that no transaction had even been attempted on the network, so the issue was definitely on the vendor's side. There's also a surcharge for any payment method besides wire transfers or Netherlands bank accounts. Ultimately I was forced to use PayPal, which worked.
I've assembled computers before; this wasn't any more difficult. I'd say the most time-consuming parts were determining, with a ruler, process of elimination, and skimming an article on the metric screw naming scheme, which screws and washers were which in several steps. And of course, there's a moment of tension where you pray you got the grounding and A/C wiring right, and aren't going to either blow the amp's fuse or electrocute yourself. Still wish I had a multimeter. But power-up and an audio test went fine; I took off the rubber gloves, and touched the unit without any tingle even. They do give you 3 spare fuses, in case you're less lucky than me.
The daughterboard with the amplifier's power LED also has a mysterious three-way switch which the case labels simply "0-1-2" and which the instruction manual doesn't seem to explain. Experimentation shows this is a brightness setting for the power LED (0 = Disable/Defeat, 1=Low, 2=High).
The cable management seems meh. You route them through some partial corridors and compress the wires together with zipties in 3 places, but their stiffness fights you and you never bind them to the case, so the routes are vague at best.
It's weird to me how acute some of the bends are in the CK-4 and CK-7 electrical wires, but then again I'm not an electrician. And they sell this within the EU, where they're more regulation-happy; so it's probably fine.
Conclusion
So we came into this hoping for 16W idle, but actually got ~30W idle, a bit less than twice as much. Perhaps someone who's an electrician or EE can make an educated guess about the discrepancy?
30W is dim incandescent lightbulb territory. Idling 24/7 at my electric rates, that's $42/year for high-fidelity sound anytime. Imagine it's the '80s and you have a dim porch light constantly on. So, acceptable to me, though higher than I'd like. On the bright side, for non-metalhead listening at reasonable volumes, we're barely pulling any extra watts.
Also, this amp will be part of a dual-purpose stereo speaker system, hooked up to both music and my TV. So it needed either HDMI input, or an auto-on+off feature, or low idle power consumption (climate change is real and bad, folks).
Ultimately I decided on a DIY Class D UcD400 stereo kit amplifier, using Hypex UcD technology. I was eager to finally make some decision after so many hours spent researching...
If you're here for sonic performance measurements, stop reading now; I don't have any of the equipment for that. But let's see what the actual power consumption and waste heat are..
Vendor's Data
Hypex's FAQ states (emphasis mine):
Their datasheet for the raw mono amp board "UcD400HG with HxR" quotes 400W into 4Ω @ 1% THD. So their math checks out (2% * 400W = 8W).9 Q: The blue heatsink on the module gets very warm and the output coil even gets warmer! I thought UcD Class D stayed cool at all times!
A: [...] An idling UcD amplifier draws up to 2% of rated power. That’s 8W for a UcD400 amplifier. Whether that translates into a small or large temperature rise depends on the size of the heatsink. Please refer to the Thermal design application note for more information.
Since the kit is stereo and includes 2 of those boards, I expected (at most) twice the quiescent wattage, i.e. 16W.
And likely less than that, since the single included SMPS400A400 shared power supply is rated "only" 600W max & 400W max @ 20Hz; versus the amp boards' combined 800W rating. The power supply's datasheet states:
The kit quotes 200W @ 4Ω and 200W @ 8Ω. The webpage isn't crystal clear, but I presume these are watts-per-channel figures, given the power supply.Idle Losses @ 230V AC, 50 Hz: 7.5 W
I am unclear on how 8Ω speakers impact the consumed (vs. provided) wattage.
After assembly, the kit connects directly to a wall outlet via IEC cable; no external power brick. Being a power amp, it lacks any built-in volume control.
Test Setup
- Poniie PN1500 (kill-a-watt clone from Amazon)
- Claimed resolution: 0.01W
- No maximum delay or responsiveness figure quoted.
- No "maximum [Watts/etc.] over time period" function. Maximums are entirely manual.
- Audio source: JDS Labs EL DAC II+
- Connected via Bluetooth using aptX HD, to an Android phone
- Noise meter: Triplett SoniChek Pro 3550
- Ordered from Fry's Electronics days before the bankruptcy... Barely dodged that bullet; RIP.
- Listening distance: Approx. 7 ft
- Speakers: Triangle BR03
- Claimed sensitivity: 90
- Rated impedance: 8Ω
- Power handling: 100W
- U.S. power grid. ~120V, 60 Hz.
- Thermometer: Digital instant-read meat thermometer off Amazon with flip-out probe.
- <31 W; Meter reading 30.XX W with the fractional portion fluctuating, under all the following conditions:
- Idle
- No signal (Amp inputs disconnected)
- Quiet signal (Inputs connected to DAC. DAC powered on. No digital audio playing.)
- Playing Alternative Rock music off my phone with Bluetooth volume @ 50%
- Playing a YouTube video with people conversing normally, via my phone with Bluetooth volume @ 50%
- Idle
- When playing a non-quiet passage of "Audiophile Music - Bass Test Reference - The Best of Audiophile Music Collection - NbR Music" for a several seconds at maximum volume (praying the neighbors don't complain)
- 36W
- Given how brief instantaneous peaks are in music, and our cheap consumer-grade meter, this is likely an undercount.
- Noise meter in "Max" mode: 82 dB(A) achieved
- Subjectively, this felt at least discomfortingly loud.
- 36W
- 90.5°F at idle, probing several random parts of the top and side of the amplifier's metal case, holding steady until multiple seconds elapsed without further increase, and taking the maximum overall.
- Room ambient temperature: 72.3°F
- Temperature delta: 18.2°F
- Amplifier is sitting on a wooden table. At least 6 inches of clearance in each planar direction. Multiple feet of clearance upwards. Ventilation isn't an issue.
- Top part of the case feels towel-dryer-gripped-through-a-towel hot. Not gonna burn you, but I wouldn't stack on top of it or put it in an enclosed space.
I'm happy to report that 2-day EU-US UPS shipping operated without delay, despite COVID, etc. I am not a lawyer, but amplifiers apparently being tariff-free in the US probably helps. On the downside, no significantly cheaper shipping options were offered by the vendor.
Annoyingly, the vendor's payment solution declined transactions with both of my US credit cards. I verified with customer service for one of the cards that no transaction had even been attempted on the network, so the issue was definitely on the vendor's side. There's also a surcharge for any payment method besides wire transfers or Netherlands bank accounts. Ultimately I was forced to use PayPal, which worked.
I've assembled computers before; this wasn't any more difficult. I'd say the most time-consuming parts were determining, with a ruler, process of elimination, and skimming an article on the metric screw naming scheme, which screws and washers were which in several steps. And of course, there's a moment of tension where you pray you got the grounding and A/C wiring right, and aren't going to either blow the amp's fuse or electrocute yourself. Still wish I had a multimeter. But power-up and an audio test went fine; I took off the rubber gloves, and touched the unit without any tingle even. They do give you 3 spare fuses, in case you're less lucky than me.
The daughterboard with the amplifier's power LED also has a mysterious three-way switch which the case labels simply "0-1-2" and which the instruction manual doesn't seem to explain. Experimentation shows this is a brightness setting for the power LED (0 = Disable/Defeat, 1=Low, 2=High).
The cable management seems meh. You route them through some partial corridors and compress the wires together with zipties in 3 places, but their stiffness fights you and you never bind them to the case, so the routes are vague at best.
It's weird to me how acute some of the bends are in the CK-4 and CK-7 electrical wires, but then again I'm not an electrician. And they sell this within the EU, where they're more regulation-happy; so it's probably fine.
Conclusion
So we came into this hoping for 16W idle, but actually got ~30W idle, a bit less than twice as much. Perhaps someone who's an electrician or EE can make an educated guess about the discrepancy?
30W is dim incandescent lightbulb territory. Idling 24/7 at my electric rates, that's $42/year for high-fidelity sound anytime. Imagine it's the '80s and you have a dim porch light constantly on. So, acceptable to me, though higher than I'd like. On the bright side, for non-metalhead listening at reasonable volumes, we're barely pulling any extra watts.
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