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yes, jumper the diodes D1 and D5 is correct.
 
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The V+, GND and V- from C8 and C9 of the + side board will going to be connected to V+, GND and V- from C8 and C9 of the - side board

Blue = V-
Green = V+
Yellow = GND
Red = ?
Or am I completely wrong?
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red - a via. This is used to continue a trace from the bottom side to the top side.
When I would have designed the PCB I would have put a soldermask (the black 'paint') over the vias.
Vias usually have a smaller drill hole, typically 0.6mm
 
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Good to know, thanks for the explanation. Do you know if there are any jumper cables for PCBs like this one? I only found some for the Raspberry etc. , but they are far to thick.
 

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I would just use wire.
For the power supply I would use something like 0.4 to 0.5mm2 or even 0.75mm2
 
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Which one is U5 and which one is U6? No idea how to identify them.

Some more questions:
No diodes on the negative board? (LED?)
How do I know if Q2 is still working and functioning? It was really hard to solder Q2 to the board, because it does not want to take any solder to make a solid solder joint.

What about R19 and R23 on the negative board? R19 & R23 are 680 Ohm on the positive board.

R17 and R21 are empty on the positive board and 2.2k Ohm on the negative board.

You left out the volume control on the negative board. What do I have to connect to accomplish the blue connections you drew in?

I somehow managed to fill right hole of R7 with solder. Is that a problem?
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I'll answer the easy one, and let other help you with the rest :)
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Some more questions:
No diodes on the negative board? (LED?)
How do I know if Q2 is still working and functioning? It was really hard to solder Q2 to the board, because it does not want to take any solder to make a solid solder joint.


What about R19 and R23 on the negative board? R19 & R23 are 680 Ohm on the positive board.

R17 and R21 are empty on the positive board and 2.2k Ohm on the negative board.

On the negative board ONLY the parts shown in the schematic I posted must be placed.
All the other parts that are not in that schematic do not need to be placed !

To test Q2 you will have to power up the board with U1, U3 and U4 NOT inserted and measure the voltages on C8 and C9.

You left out the volume control on the negative board. What do I have to connect to accomplish the blue connections you drew in?

You have to place 2 jumper wires where the red stripes are shown
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I somehow managed to fill right hole of R7 with solder. Is that a problem?

No, R7 is not used anyway.
 
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Both boards are done. The volume jumpers are installed but not on the picture. What is the next step? Wire the volpot, the power socket, the gain switch and the power switch?
 

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First test the power supply.
U2 must be installed as well as the power switch.
AC must be connected.
Then measure if C8 and C9 have close to 12V on them.

When this is O.K. install potmeter, gain switch and the other opamps.

When the positive board is confirmed to work then it is time to test the negative board.
 
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The board and the supplied socket have three contacts, but the socket I bought has only two contacts.

Edit: I soldered the stock one to the board for testing
 
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That's because the 3 pin version has a swicth function in the negative line (not used in O2)

The side contact is not used. The pin closest to the board edge = gnd (is the mantel of the connector) and is one of the AC cntacts
The pin most inwards of the PCB is AC in and is the center pin.
In this particular case, as the input is AC, it does not matter how the trafo is connected as long as it is connected to the most outer and most inner pin.
 
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Just to make things sure. I set my multimeter to AC and measure the voltage of C8 and C9 by touching V+ and V- and not the inner GND part?
 

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Set MM to DCV and measure the DC voltage across those capacitors only.
If that is deviating from 12V (11.8V is also O.K.) then something is wrong and must be fixed before continuing the build
 
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There is something wrong than... I measured ~116mV
 

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measure DCV across C4 and C5 (around 20V over each capacitor)
Then measure DCV across C6 and C7 (must be 12V over each capacitor)
Measure DCV across pin4 and pin8 of U2 (must be 24V when the power switch is on)
 
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C4 24V
C5 23,9V
C6 11,95V
C7 -11,96V
U2 no more than nothing connected
 

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perfect...

Measure DCV across pin4 and pin8 of U2 (must be 24V when the power switch is on)
Without a power switch or jumper there won't be a voltage here.
 
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Measure DCV across pin4 and pin8 of U2 (must be 24V when the power switch is on)
Without a power switch or jumper there won't be a voltage here.

That is the case. Power switch is plugged in and the solder joints seem fine though
 

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So 24V is present on pin4 and pin8 of U2 but there is no voltage present on C8 and C9 ?
 
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