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Dirac Live Exclamation Mark issue

It started with some people moving from 3.4.4, and when they encountered issues with the upgrade; they could not go back to 3.4.4. 3.4.4 worked fine previously. It appears that 3.10.1 has resolved the issues with many people. @ppataki has this flushed out your issues also?
Unfortunately not, please check post #168
One of my systems works fine but the other does not (I have to do many measurements until I have one that is sort of OK....)
 
I tried to change to the new Beta software version 3.10.1, but the speaker calibration is very different now considering the setuo of the "old" version 3.9.7.
Hardware is the "new" Onkyo TX-RZ70 with its current firmware.
Does anyone have experience with the Dirac Beta version 3.10.1 and did it behave in the same way ?
 
I tried to change to the new Beta software version 3.10.1, but the speaker calibration is very different now considering the setuo of the "old" version 3.9.7.
Hardware is the "new" Onkyo TX-RZ70 with its current firmware.
Does anyone have experience with the Dirac Beta version 3.10.1 and did it behave in the same way ?
I have a miniDSP device and only running a 2.1 system but the process between 3.4.4 and 3.10.1 was nearly identical. There is now the option to record more sweeps and the speaker icons have a new look, but thats it.
 
Some good news from my end:
I have tried the new beta again with my system in the living room and this time it worked right away!
I have verified it with measurements in REW and it seems to be fine
FYI @Flak
Did you get an acceptable GD?
 
Did you get an acceptable GD?
It did not get better or worse to be honest - I mean compared to earlier versions
But I have never had GD issues because of Dirac - I have GD issues because of my room :(
(but I can correct them pretty well with notch filters as mentioned before)
 
It did not get better or worse to be honest - I mean compared to earlier versions
But I have never had GD issues because of Dirac - I have GD issues because of my room :(
(but I can correct them pretty well with notch filters as mentioned before)
I don't know if you have already posted it, but can you show a GD graph of your system with and without Dirac?
 
I don't know if you have already posted it, but can you show a GD graph of your system with and without Dirac?
Yes but I can post them here too, no problem

This is the living room (the system in my signature)

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Before 3.10.1 I had to use 3.4.4 to avoid the “imprecise measurement” error. When I tried 3.10.1 for the first time I did not get the imprecise error anymore, and IMO my system sounded the best it ever had. Unfortunately I had to go and tinker with it . I felt there was a bit too much sub bass and my imaging was moving around a bit. Anyway to try out a few things I adding a HPF to my mains (2.1 system with no XO’s set initially). After adding the XO the “imprecise measurement” error returned. Now I’m just waiting on Dirac for any suggestions.
Diracs reply is that the HPF is to blame. They suggest not having one??
Anyone else with a HTx having this issue?
 
I've just been hit with the exclamation mark issue.
Running a MiniDSP SHD using a Mac mini and Umik-1

My Dirac version is 3.9.7

Dumb question, but it's not at all obvious to me how to update the Dirac version to try 3.10.1 (or to downgrade back to 3.4.4 for that matter). How is this done?
 
I've just been hit with the exclamation mark issue.
Running a MiniDSP SHD using a Mac mini and Umik-1

My Dirac version is 3.9.7

Dumb question, but it's not at all obvious to me how to update the Dirac version to try 3.10.1 (or to downgrade back to 3.4.4 for that matter). How is this done?
Use this link to download the latest (3.10.3)

For me the exclamation mark issue has thankfully disappeared eversince
 
Use this link to download the latest (3.10.3)

For me the exclamation mark issue has thankfully disappeared eversinc

Seems "This release will unfortunately not install on MacOS 12 or older." :(
 
After installing Dirac Live 3.10.3 I found a non simetric scene (balance issues). In my case scene is moved to the left.
My place is symetric, i'm sitting in the exact the middle of both speakers and Dirac introduced -1,3dB to the Right and it's noticeable incorrect.
Anyone else with balance issues?

In my case I'm using MiniDSP flex Digital and I have issues with volume. When testing to align volume of all speakers volume is surprisingly high but later on, when testing the frecuency on each spot volume gets much lower (-40dB). Maybe this volume issue is the reason why I don't get enough accuracy. I allways make frecuency testings at 70-75dB (measured at my primary spot). Higher volumes would make my neighbours call to my door... :)
 
You must be 30dB above the noise level. It doesn't matter whether it is ambient noise or noise generated by the electronics. 75dB is not enough with a UMIK-1, for example!
 
You must be 30dB above the noise level. It doesn't matter whether it is ambient noise or noise generated by the electronics. 75dB is not enough with a UMIK-1, for example!
Good to know that because that's my mic!! Maybe that's the reason Dirac isn't accurate in my case.

But I never hear music louder than 75/80dB... is there any other way to fix this volume issue?
 
The "noise problem" can be cured if the difference between the surrounding (idle) noise and the meassurment are at least appr. "30db". This naturally depends on that individual noise level (time of day ?).
I am using the Umik-1 also and the absolute sound level is not that important but the difference above the noise level is. Humming noises of your refrigerator, driving noises of cars, noises from airplanes flying over your head or nearby or a barking dog etc. make a measurement "obsolete" and have to be repeated on the same spot (position/location), sometimes even for several times. A button within the Dirac Live application on your PC (or Mac) enables that.
 
What difference does it make except some closer tolerances for the Umik-2 ? Both mikes are specified by Dirac (and Minidsp) inluding sensitivity for their behavior without any preferences.
Most sellers just use it because they make more money selling it, when used as an example, but it doesn't make any relevant differences for this purpose.
Dirac expressetly recommends the Umik-1 for its measurements and even the less specified and in the box included mike does not make such a large difference, that it is worthwile to consider a "real change". The umik-1 is different as it has a conversion from analog to USB "on board", which simplifies hook up for any Standard-PC.

Most rooms and theire acoustics cause much larger deviations and usually nobody claims (with proof) anything negative about it... :)
 
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