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Dirac ART is now running on beta FW for Denon Xx800H AVRs!

I have at one point spent some time on ART but honestly can't say I answered all the questions I had back then. I also had Storm 16 in my room for a day year or so ago, but the trial was not that successful - most likely ART and Dirac were not set-up right by the dealer and I had no time or idea how to make it better.

In that respect, if someone with practical experience could be kind enough to answer these practical questions, it would be great. Pls don't send me to AVS as don't partake there any more. And these are some fundamental questions that might be difficult to answer by piecing together 300+ pages thread.

1. When one designates supporting speakers and sets the limit of their support (e.g. 50hz), how exactly is that being rolled off, or is it at all? I assume it is not a brick wall but some filter, but could be wrong. Goes to the point that I have no idea how strong the supporting signal might be and where it would end.

2. To point above - understand that there is a slider as to intensity of the support per group of supporting speakers, so one can decide how hard to push. Do we know what the maximum setting means in terms of dB?

3. I also understand that one has to designate subs as LFE and supporting subs. Does that mean that "supporting" subs will not play LFE but just the canceling role? This would seem like quite a bit of waste. If they are just out of phase like in DBA they would still play LFE and contribute to SPL, albeit SPL would be lower than if no DBA. If this is true, could this be circumvented in 2 sub situation by connecting 4 outputs to 2 subs (L+R inputs) and have them play both roles? If not true, could in 4 sub scenarios groups of 2 subs do both LFE and support each other (like in DBA)?

4. How would ART hand over 20hz to whatever (Dirac Live? DLBC? and which one). I think I recall from Storm write up that it will continue to follow the curve set before. Not sure how you set the curve, so is there a cut-off at 20hz on the screen (so you can't go below that)? While this is a question of general interest, I do have huge room bump at 15hz that if not checked is just going to ruin it all.

Many thanks in advance if there are members that can help with the above. Would be much appreciated.
I suggest you direct your questions to @Flak as he contributes on various forums, and is a representative (employee) of Dirac...

(although I believe there are a few Beta testers on here as well who might be able to answer some of your questions too...)
 
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I noticed the links for email notification signup are swapped between Denon and Marantz (link that says "Denon" is actually Marantz and vice versa). So if you try to sign up and it seems to be giving options for the other manufacturer, that's why. Just use the other link.
 
I have at one point spent some time on ART but honestly can't say I answered all the questions I had back then. I also had Storm 16 in my room for a day year or so ago, but the trial was not that successful - most likely ART and Dirac were not set-up right by the dealer and I had no time or idea how to make it better.

In that respect, if someone with practical experience could be kind enough to answer these practical questions, it would be great. Pls don't send me to AVS as don't partake there any more. And these are some fundamental questions that might be difficult to answer by piecing together 300+ pages thread.

1. When one designates supporting speakers and sets the limit of their support (e.g. 50hz), how exactly is that being rolled off, or is it at all? I assume it is not a brick wall but some filter, but could be wrong. Goes to the point that I have no idea how strong the supporting signal might be and where it would end.

2. To point above - understand that there is a slider as to intensity of the support per group of supporting speakers, so one can decide how hard to push. Do we know what the maximum setting means in terms of dB?

3. I also understand that one has to designate subs as LFE and supporting subs. Does that mean that "supporting" subs will not play LFE but just the canceling role? This would seem like quite a bit of waste. If they are just out of phase like in DBA they would still play LFE and contribute to SPL, albeit SPL would be lower than if no DBA. If this is true, could this be circumvented in 2 sub situation by connecting 4 outputs to 2 subs (L+R inputs) and have them play both roles? If not true, could in 4 sub scenarios groups of 2 subs do both LFE and support each other (like in DBA)?

4. How would ART hand over 20hz to whatever (Dirac Live? DLBC? and which one). I think I recall from Storm write up that it will continue to follow the curve set before. Not sure how you set the curve, so is there a cut-off at 20hz on the screen (so you can't go below that)? While this is a question of general interest, I do have huge room bump at 15hz that if not checked is just going to ruin it all.

Many thanks in advance if there are members that can help with the above. Would be much appreciated.
@Flak per suggestions in the thread could perhaps help with the above questions.
 
Once it is out and usable for all of our platforms - the economical approach will most likely be the Bundled pricing and the black friday discounts....

If Denon, Marantz and Onkyo, Integra all get their act together, Black Friday could be a big day for Dirac... (without counting the other platforms such as Monoprice, NAD, JBl, Arcam etc...)
 
Once it is out and usable for all of our platforms - the economical approach will most likely be the Bundled pricing and the black friday discounts....

If Denon, Marantz and Onkyo, Integra all get their act together, Black Friday could be a big day for Dirac... (without counting the other platforms such as Monoprice, NAD, JBl, Arcam etc...)
As far as ive read Onkyo & Integra are not getting ART, just D&M. At least for the time being.... I haven't seen any announcements or talks on that. Has anyone else??
 
As far as ive read Onkyo & Integra are not getting ART, just D&M. At least for the time being.... I haven't seen any announcements or talks on that. Has anyone else??
2 years ago, CEDI interview at the Integra stand - one of the presenters there stated that they were bringing ART to the DRX8.4...

But there has been no official statement.
 
hi, I don't know where to post this, so I asked on their website: no response :/

can you transfer your license to another model of the same brand?
(4800 -> A10h)

thanks if anyone has any information.
 
License transfers are possible if you are selling your hardware device and the new owner wants to take ownership of the Dirac Live license, or if you experienced hardware failure and are using a replacement device of the same model. In either case, please create a ticket through our Help Center, and our support staff will initiate the transfer.

Transferring or using licenses across multiple devices or models is not supported. For example, if you bought a license for an NAD M10 and are now buying a Denon X3800H, you will need to purchase a new license, as your NAD license is not transferable to the Denon.
 
The licenses not being transferable is pure greed. It is a lot of money already for one license.
 
The licenses not being transferable is pure greed. It is a lot of money already for one license.
You can't expect companies to survive with 1-off charges and also provide ongoing support/supply (of the back-end servers). Big companies like Adobe and Autodesk realised that long ago.

And don't forget that many devices already have fixed royalty costs built in to the sticker price. Sure it's not hundreds of dollars like a Dirac license, but I just asked ChatGPT what the royalties would be for a $2000 home theater receiver, and it imagines $30 to $100 in total... lol

  • License Fees: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth licensing fees are generally bundled together by manufacturers like Qualcomm, and Bluetooth fees can range from $0.25 - $1.50per unit.
    • Estimate: The total royalties for both technologies could add up to about $5-$10 per unit.
 
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