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Dirac ART is now running on beta FW for Denon Xx800H AVRs!

D&M along with Dirac committed to a 3Q 2025 release for ART
If so this was before being purchased.... however Publicly they didn't announce that officially. Most of this is speculation, rumors & educated guesses based on Beta testing. The new company may decide to never release it. We don't know their bussiness model. Were kinda back to square one. At best we can hope they stick with the direction the previous Company was heading.
 
Well yes but this was before the sale of the company - surely the situation is completely different now. I don't expect anything to happen before the sale is completed, which will probably be around the end of this year and who knows how the new owners think about ART and/or about releasing it for an old product line (=very little new money generated).
 
A pending acquisition usually means business as usual for quite some time. New owners need to be actual owners. You normally don't stop the current work streams for something like this.

So if a launch had been pending for this year I would say people are currently working on it. Might as well be that the launch is not actually pending anymore already.
 
A pending acquisition usually means business as usual for quite some time. New owners need to be actual owners. You normally don't stop the current work streams for something like this.

So if a launch had been pending for this year I would say people are currently working on it. Might as well be that the launch is not actually pending anymore already.
Exactly and why should we give in to FUD ;)
 
I don't expect anything to happen before the sale is completed, which will probably be around the end of this year and who knows how the new owners think about ART and/or about releasing it for an old product line (=very little new money generated).
I don't know if you've ever been involved in an acquisition but one usually wishes for the selling party to conduct business at the best of their capabilities. No point in buying a company that's spent the past 7 months waiting and waiting... it would lead to loss of value, for sure.
 
I don't know if you've ever been involved in an acquisition
No I haven't - well I have but only as an employee of a smaller company (with around 70 employees and around 10 mio. annual sales volume), which has been bought by a larger firm. But in our case it was more like a merger than an acquisition. So admittedly, I don't know much about how these things are usually handled by those large corporations. I also don't know enough about business administration to comment on how these acquisitions work exactly. My wording of "expecting" was meant more in the sense of: "I won't hope for a release this year for the X800 series or at all - so I won't be disappointed".

I know it's usually pretty much business as usual in these cases until the sale is complete, it certainly was in our case - even 1-2 years after the sale was complete but then came some big changes - this cannot be compared to the scenario of SU though I know... Business as usual is probably beneficial to our cause here since DLART was in development for a long time already now and should be almost ready to be released anyways. So yeah a release shouldn't be affected much by the acquisition if D&M is left alone until the sale is completed (I imagine they cannot make major investments anymore though). I just feel like if they won't release DLART before the sale is complete, the new ownership probably will want to release it in a new product (X900-line or sth similar) to make more money, so hopefully they'll roll it out this year.

but one usually wishes for the selling party to conduct business at the best of their capabilities. No point in buying a company that's spent the past 7 months waiting and waiting... it would lead to loss of value, for sure.
This makes sense But isn't the value of the company being bought still "under review" for price negotiations? Or is the price already set in stone at this point?
 
Well after seeing hollywoodzuhause's video, I guess you were right ;) That's great news! So it should really come this year, still no mentioning about an upgrade for the older devices but I guess now it's pretty much certain it will actually come. I'm really curious to see how well this works in practise in actual rooms, especially difficult ones like minimally treated living rooms. Knowing Dirac, there will probably be a lot of problems at first and Lars Mette had some kind of reservations regarding the processing power of the SU units compared to the Storm though but no idea if that's an actual concern or just marketing fluff to hype up the more expensive product...
 
Well after seeing hollywoodzuhause's video, I guess you were right ;) That's great news! So it should really come this year, still no mentioning about an upgrade for the older devices but I guess now it's pretty much certain it will actually come. I'm really curious to see how well this works in practise in actual rooms, especially difficult ones like minimally treated living rooms. Knowing Dirac, there will probably be a lot of problems at first and Lars Mette had some kind of reservations regarding the processing power of the SU units compared to the Storm though but no idea if that's an actual concern or just marketing fluff to hype up the more expensive product...
It is worth keeping in mind that the less powerful Storm units limited the number of "support" channels, to keep it within the processors capabilities... the flagship models have no such limitations.

So the version of ART deployed on individual AVR's may potentially be limited to a certain number of "support" channels, although you may be able to choose which channels are supporting and which are not.

For most of us out there, having 13 channels would be more than ample - and looking at actual implementations of ART by current Storm users, often even the 2 mains and a sub can make immediately noticeable improvements!... personally I would hope for 6 channels of support - which at just under 1/3rd of the channels the basic Storm AVP supported, should be viable by the Denon X800 series and competitors. Why 6: I have 4 full range speakers capable of going down to under 30Hz, mains L/R and Surround L/R + 2 subs... my height speakers are severely constrained in the bass, my front centre goes down to 40Hz in theory... so could potentially be a 7th channel - still even at 7 channels, that is 1/2 what the more limited Storm unit supports - so should be viable!
 
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