Digital Cable Question

[muslhead]

I need to find a digital source to feed the Dutch 8C speakers. Until i have a slicker way, i am just going to use the coax spdif output from my streamer. Unfortunately the streamer are standard rca coax connectors while the Dutch need AES. I have found some 110ohm cables that i think will work. Can someone confirm that this cable or something similar will accomplish what i need, please?

The first link is for the speaker to speaker interconnect and the second is the streamer to speaker.
TIA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SB22SMM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A17GJYPD0QYIUB&psc=1
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...rxm-10-premium-digital-cable-10-foot-rca-xlrm

 

[Purité Audio]

I don’t think you could choose a more suitable cable, I think that’s the same cable I buy from Mogami, I will check.
Keith

 

[muslhead]

I don’t think you could choose a more suitable cable, I think that’s the same cable I buy from Mogami, I will check.
Keith

Thanks. Since you have the 8c's i will trust you

 

[tuga]

Maybe you should consider an active DDC:

http://www.murraypro.com/spdif-tos~aes.htm
https://www.rdlnet.com/product.php?page=417
https://hosatech.com/products/digital-audio/s-pdif-interfaces/cdl-313/
https://www.studiospares.com/studiospares-red502-bi-directional-balancing-converter-458210.htm

 

[Linus]

https://www.neutrik.com/en/neutrik/products/accessories/aes-ebu-impedance-transformers

BNC to RCA are easy to find. The store that will sell you the Neutrik will probably be able to give you one.

 

[muslhead]

https://www.neutrik.com/en/neutrik/products/accessories/aes-ebu-impedance-transformers

BNC to RCA are easy to find. The store that will sell you the Neutrik will probably be able to give you one.

i saw these from a previous post but i dont have bnc

 

[muslhead]

Maybe you should consider an active DDC:

http://www.murraypro.com/spdif-tos~aes.htm
https://www.rdlnet.com/product.php?page=417
https://hosatech.com/products/digital-audio/s-pdif-interfaces/cdl-313/
https://www.studiospares.com/studiospares-red502-bi-directional-balancing-converter-458210.htm

of those, i have only see the hosa and it gets mixed ratings. Not knowing any better, i wondered if they have much impact on the signal. Bit perfect?

 

[Linus]

i saw these from a previous post but i dont have bnc

RCA female to BNC male will cost you around 5$.
If you buy the Neutrik from a real store (not from internet) they can probably give you one. It’s just a different connector.

 

[muslhead]

RCA female to BNC male will cost you around 5$.
If you buy the Neutrik from a real store (not from internet) they can probably give you one. It’s just a different connector.

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i follow you but how does this answer my question if the two cables are what i need to solve my problem. I am either lost or really dense? are you saying i need this connector in order to use the transformer because my cable options wont work? cant i just buy the right cable with the right impedance and connectors?

 

[Linus]

I was in the same boat as you once, and I was told to use a converter. Your streamer impedance is 75 ohm (spdif) and your speakers is 110 ohm (aes). I was also told to keep the spdif part as short as possible. I went another way so I can’t tell for sure if you do need a converter.
The Mogami 110 ohm XLR is perfect for speaker to speaker.

 

[muslhead]

I was in the same boat as you once, and I was told to use a converter. Your streamer impedance is 75 ohm (spdif) and your speakers is 110 ohm (aes). I was also told to keep the spdif part as short as possible. I went another way so I can’t tell for sure if you do need a converter.
The Mogami 110 ohm XLR is perfect for speaker to speaker.

Thanks. That mogami is the one i felt most confidence in. I am still looking for an answer to the cable from the streamer (its actually an oppo mdplayer but also acts as a dlna renderer where i send my networked music to it) and my speaker.

 

[Linus]

In my case, I wanted to connect SPDIF out from my DAC to Genelec 83XX AES. I asked about what to do on Genelc‘s forum page and was directed to the Neutrik transformer.
Maybe try an email to the guys at D&D.
Good luck with your project. Can’t go wrong with Mogami.

 

[tuga]

of those, i have only see the hosa and it gets mixed ratings. Not knowing any better, i wondered if they have much impact on the signal. Bit perfect?

What about this? https://audiophilestyle.com/classifieds/item/952-fs-singxer-su-1-with-mods/

 

[tuga]

Or this? https://audiophilestyle.com/classifieds/item/129-gustard-u16-only-2-months-old/

 

[sergeauckland]

Can I suggest you just use a normal RCA unbalanced cable from your streamer output to an XLR wired with pins 1 and 3 connected together. For normal domestic lengths, that'll work fine. S-PDIF signal levels are lower than AES-EBU, but I don't know of any AES-EBU receiver that won't lock to an S-PDIF stream. If cable runs get longer than perhaps 10m, then yes, an active S-PDIF to AES-EBU converter is sensible, but for shorter lengths, you have nothing to lose by just trying it. It'll either work, in which case you're fine, or it won't work at all, there won't be any variation of sound quality.

S.

 

[mansr]

Can I suggest you just use a normal RCA unbalanced cable from your streamer output to an XLR wired with pins 1 and 3 connected together. For normal domestic lengths, that'll work fine. S-PDIF signal levels are lower than AES-EBU, but I don't know of any AES-EBU receiver that won't lock to an S-PDIF stream.

Yes, that usually works. Levels are not a problem since both S/PDIF and AES-3 have the same lower limit at the receiver (0.2 Vpp). The impedance mismatch will of course cause some signal loss, but as you say, with cable lengths of a few metres at most, it's not usually an issue.

 

[Speedskater]

Note that AES-EBU has specs for XLR balanced, coax and optical interconnect systems.

 

[Chon]

For this Problem i have this one
http://www.funk-tonstudiotechnik.de/CASA-T-Adapterkabel.pdf
75 Ohm to 110 Ohm
It works well
Best regards from Germany

 

[tmtomh]

Resurrecting this old thread to ask if anyone knows of a convenient US-based online vendor for an RCA to AES cable, preferably 1M but 2M would be okay I guess.

My understanding is that for such a short run, the impedance wouldn't be a major concern, yes?