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"DHCP sounds worse than a fixed IP address"

Token Ring... that's where it's at!!!!
We weighed the pros and cons at the time, and went with a star network. We still have coax runs in some of our spaces, although they've been abandoned-in-place for 25 or so years.
 
....My system has never sounded better since I installed a $5k 10GB network switch with $3k external reclocker, started using expensive CAT 8 cables capable of 40GB/s and fronted these all with $7K of LPS's.
...I have also spent $4k on special footers for the switch, reclocker and lps's which really help reduce packet flow congestion.
...But I plan to convert my 60,000 FLAC tracks to WAV cause I am told that the time and energy needed to convert FLAC to raw PCM corrupts my sound and that WAV is the way to go.
I musta missed some parts of your reply:
Why do you exactly need all of this costly 10GB network switches and Cat8 cables, for your 60k FLAC/WAV collection?:oops:
Wouldn't a local NAS and using a local DHCP for a local "static IP" suffice and result in *neater/*cleaner solution?
[*neater/*cleaner, only because I will not debate claims of better sound.]
 
Reading through their website, it is clear that this is a brand that has a strong focus on the subjective side of things. Whilst the digital side of things is what I understand the best, and their statements regarding DHCP makes absolutely no sense at all, I unfortunately assume that their HW would probably not measure very well.

Way ahead of you - I emailed them yesterday! I was concerned that should I splash out on their expensive knulli I'd have to forgo the convenient pinning of a MAC address to an IP on the DHCP server - which is less of a faff than manually assigning IP addresses to each device and having to make a note of the ones I'd used to avoid clashes - to avoid what I called "...the inferior sound of a connection where the IP address could differ upon each connection to the DHCP server". The reply states that I need not worry - I get wonderful sound and ease of IP address assignment
Thankfully they do not call their device that (the bolded word means fu**y in the local language).
 
Let alone that most routers, if not all of them, keep an internal MAC mapping, so that they tend to (well, they actually simply DO) (re)assign the very same IP to the very same MAC address.
The lease (resource consuming???) timer is a nonsense; there is no such thing, When it expires, you just need to disconnect and reconnect (and it's getting done behind the scenes, usually). You can always disable it, too, on the router.
My machines are up at an average of 3 months, with peaks of 1 year...); they never lose a link...
(yes, I am on Linux, but this should apply everywhere)
 
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Argghh, it took me near 6 months of ownership (of a NetGear DocSIS3.0 cable router) before I figured why its DHCP (by MAC address) was not fully working.
It turned out, this cable router' DHCP-table only allows a maximum of 8 static IP assignments and Dante Controller does not like multiple DHCPs on the same network. :mad:
 
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Argghh, it took me near 6 months of ownership (of a NetGear DocSIS3.0 cable router) before I figured why its DHCP (by MAC addresse ) was not fully working.
It turned out, this cable router' DHCP-table only allows a maximum of 8 static IP assignments and Dante Controller does not like multiple DHCPs on the same network. :mad:
As a rule of thumb, you never want more than ONE DHCP server on ONE network pool... nevertheless, the intrinsic MAC <=> IP table is "static" until for some reason or another the tables overflows, and some (older) addresses need to be purged out...
 
Let alone that most routers, if not all of them, keep an internal MAC mapping, so that they tend to (well, they actually simply DO) (re)assign the very same IP to the very same MAC address.
The lease (resource consuming???) timer is a nonsense; there is no such thing, When it expires, you just need to disconnect and reconnect (and it's getting done behind the scenes, usually). You can always disable it, too, on the router.
My machines are up at an average of 3 months, with peaks of 1 year...); they never lose a link...
(yes, I am on Linux, but this should apply everywhere)
I don't know why but on a monthly basis, I shut down my cable router (wait >10minutes) so that the cable company assigns the router a new IP address.
It just feels good, like using a fast VPN and a dual-NIC motherboard, that firewalls LAN from the WAN.
But I have no notion that my Dante and NAS provide better audio simply because they are running on a Marvell 10Gbit LAN. :cool:
 
One could equally well argue that having the processor running at close to 100% all the time will be better because it will produce less switching noise from going through multiple power/idle states, and hence you will get much more inky blackness or whatever :)
The class A CPU, must sound lovely and warm, none of this switching nonsense.
 
What do we expect from a company that sells $10k DACs? Of course they need to make up BS to justify the price. Whats funny is these problems, if they even exist , would be from bad design but they turn it around into a bonus and the audiophools eat it up.

Heres some more BS from there website.

1) It is not difficult to add UPnP so that Källa can access files from a standard NAS. But Lejonklou has chosen
not to do so because:
1) Streaming services sound better without the UPnP protocol added.
2) Streaming services sound better without a NAS connected (typically to a switch and the streamer).
3) Streaming services are, with 1 and 2 applied, in general more musical than listening to the same music
stored on a NAS, even when the files on the NAS are higher resolution than from the streaming services.
If Lejonklou HiFi ever adds the ability for Källa to play locally stored music, it will be a solution that is made
entirely in-house and specifically tuned for musicality in each and every parameter

Yea they say streaming at 300kbs is better quality than a 96khz/24bit file played off a NAS. Isnt that a defect? And were supposed to spend $10k on that piece of sh....
 
What do we expect from a company that sells $10k DACs? Of course they need to make up BS to justify the price. Whats funny is these problems, if they even exist , would be from bad design but they turn it around into a bonus and the audiophools eat it up.

Heres some more BS from there website.

1) It is not difficult to add UPnP so that Källa can access files from a standard NAS. But Lejonklou has chosen
not to do so because:
1) Streaming services sound better without the UPnP protocol added.
2) Streaming services sound better without a NAS connected (typically to a switch and the streamer).
3) Streaming services are, with 1 and 2 applied, in general more musical than listening to the same music
stored on a NAS, even when the files on the NAS are higher resolution than from the streaming services.
If Lejonklou HiFi ever adds the ability for Källa to play locally stored music, it will be a solution that is made
entirely in-house and specifically tuned for musicality in each and every parameter

Yea they say streaming at 300kbs is better quality than a 96khz/24bit file played off a NAS. Isnt that a defect? And were supposed to spend $10k on that piece of sh....
This reads to me like they lost their sole firmware engineer at some point and don't want to pay a contractor to add / fix this stuff. So they come out and say "but actually it's not broken, it's on purpose because it sounds better this way".

Lol, rofl, even.

Who can blame them, though? This type of audiophile feverishly spends huge sums of money to either add weird forms of distortion that were technically overcome decades ago (tubes, NOS, R2R), or add components that physically cannot affect the sound (ethernet anything). Broken by design is apparently very sought-after in this community.
 
I don't know why but on a monthly basis, I shut down my cable router (wait >10minutes) so that the cable company assigns the router a new IP address.
It just feels good, like using a fast VPN and a dual-NIC motherboard, that firewalls LAN from the WAN.
But I have no notion that my Dante and NAS provide better audio simply because they are running on a Marvell 10Gbit LAN. :cool:
This has absolutely nothing to do with your local performance. Actually, it may impact negatively your speed on the internet, as all the cached routes to you (in your provider's route table, provided it has not changed its IP too - which is uncommon, but not impossible) are now invalidated...
 
Heres some more BS from there website.

1) It is not difficult to add UPnP so that Källa can access files from a standard NAS. But Lejonklou has chosen
not to do so because:
1) Streaming services sound better without the UPnP protocol added.
2) Streaming services sound better without a NAS connected (typically to a switch and the streamer).
3) Streaming services are, with 1 and 2 applied, in general more musical than listening to the same music
stored on a NAS, even when the files on the NAS are higher resolution than from the streaming services.
If Lejonklou HiFi ever adds the ability for Källa to play locally stored music, it will be a solution that is made
entirely in-house and specifically tuned for musicality in each and every parameter
Could you imagine how AI can interpret your [errr...] bullet points with 2 Return-marks and no Colon-mark: AI may even ignore the first sentence....:oops:
 
Yea they say streaming at 300kbs is better quality than a 96khz/24bit file played off a NAS. Isnt that a defect? And were supposed to spend $10k on that piece of sh....
We know (and they do even better) that misinformation, or lack of education, is the key to selling BS. (well. actually, extremely pricey one).
It takes so little to really know how things work - and in the digital domain it is even easier than in the oldie-goldie analog one - and becoming aware about what is real, and what is quackery.
But still, it is more difficult to make one believe he's been lied to, than it is to lie to in the first place...
 
One wonders if these IP / networking-related audio quality "tweaks" are all just a practical joke.

Of course, if an ethernet cable can affect sound quality, anything can, but I guess they're serious about "anything".

BTW did you know that you should disable amber and red LEDs on your cable modem because the lower frequency photons introduce more audible noise? It's true, just ask these people, probably.

edit: having read the page linked, I think they're exploiting the credulity of their customers as a work-around instead of fixing some problem with the network stack of their streamer. I'd bet you they have issues with DHCP, and get a lot of customer support inquiries about it.
I did recently see some puffery on an "audiophile" facebook page about "audiophile grade" network switches.

Just ignorant people revelling in their ignorance. Pointing out that I can transfer an audio file back and forth between two computers on a networking using a $30 switch and $15 worth of ethernet cables literally 10,000 and it'll be bit-for-bit identical to the original file when that process is complete does not penetrate their brains.
 
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